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Het alternatief is dat Iran zijn eigen wetenschappers vermoord en zijn eigen nucleaire installaties en pijpleidingen aanvalt:ironic:.mac-bc zei:
A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News. The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran. It has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials.
A senior U.S. government official said groups such as Jundullah have been helpful in tracking al Qaeda figures and that it was appropriate for the U.S. to deal with such groups in that context.
ABC News Exclusive: The Secret War Against Iran - ABC News
Late last year, Congress agreed to a request from President Bush to fund a major escalation of covert operations against Iran, according to current and former military, intelligence, and congressional sources. These operations, for which the President sought up to four hundred million dollars, were described in a Presidential Finding signed by Bush, and are designed to destabilize the country’s religious leadership. The covert activities involve support of the minority Ahwazi Arab and Baluchi groups and other dissident organizations. They also include gathering intelligence about Iran’s suspected nuclear-weapons program.
Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of “high-value targets” in the President’s war on terror, who may be captured or killed.
One of the most active and violent anti-regime groups in Iran today is the Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People’s Resistance Movement, which describes itself as a resistance force fighting for the rights of Sunnis in Iran. “This is a vicious Salafi organization whose followers attended the same madrassas as the Taliban and Pakistani extremists,” Nasr told me. “They are suspected of having links to Al Qaeda and they are also thought to be tied to the drug culture.” The Jundallah took responsibility for the bombing of a busload of Revolutionary Guard soldiers in February, 2007. At least eleven Guard members were killed. According to Baer and to press reports, the Jundallah is among the groups in Iran that are benefitting from U.S. support.
The C.I.A. and Special Operations communities also have long-standing ties to two other dissident groups in Iran: the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, known in the West as the M.E.K., and a Kurdish separatist group, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan, or PJAK.
The M.E.K. has been on the State Department’s terrorist list for more than a decade, yet in recent years the group has received arms and intelligence, directly or indirectly, from the United States. Some of the newly authorized covert funds, the Pentagon consultant told me, may well end up in M.E.K. coffers. “The new task force will work with the M.E.K. The Administration is desperate for results.” He added, “The M.E.K. has no C.P.A. auditing the books, and its leaders are thought to have been lining their pockets for years. If people only knew what the M.E.K. is getting, and how much is going to its bank accounts—and yet it is almost useless for the purposes the Administration intends.”
The Kurdish party, PJAK, which has also been reported to be covertly supported by the United States, has been operating against Iran from bases in northern Iraq for at least three years. (Iran, like Iraq and Turkey, has a Kurdish minority, and PJAK and other groups have sought self-rule in territory that is now part of each of those countries.) In recent weeks, according to Sam Gardiner, the military strategist, there has been a marked increase in the number of PJAK armed engagements with Iranians and terrorist attacks on Iranian targets. In early June, the news agency Fars reported that a dozen PJAK members and four Iranian border guards were killed in a clash near the Iraq border; a similar attack in May killed three Revolutionary Guards and nine PJAK fighters. PJAK has also subjected Turkey, a member of NATO, to repeated terrorist attacks, and reports of American support for the group have been a source of friction between the two governments.
Gardiner also mentioned a trip that the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, made to Tehran in June. After his return, Maliki announced that his government would ban any contact between foreigners and the M.E.K.—a slap at the U.S.’s dealings with the group. Maliki declared that Iraq was not willing to be a staging ground for covert operations against other countries.
Read more The Bush Administration’s operations in Iran : The New Yorker
Israel has launched a covert war against Iran as an alternative to direct military strikes against Tehran's nuclear programme, US intelligence sources have revealed.
It is using hitmen, sabotage, front companies and double agents to disrupt the regime's illicit weapons project, the experts say.
The most dramatic element of the "decapitation" programme is the planned assassination of top figures involved in Iran's atomic operations.
Israel launches covert war against Iran - Telegraph
'Decapitation' Strategy: Israel engaged in covert war of sabotage inside Iran - Nachrichten English-News - WELT ONLINE
U.S. officials deny any "direct funding" of Jundullah groups but say the leader of Jundullah was in regular contact with U.S. officials.
American intelligence sources say Jundullah has received money and weapons through the Afghanistan and Pakistan military and Pakistan’s intelligence service. Pakistan has officially denied any connection.
Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran - ABC News
Moest ge nog bronnen nodig heb, geef me een seintje!
Als je militaire oefeningen van Iran in haar eigen achtertuin een probleem vindt maar militaire oefeningen van de USA op dezelfde plaats niet, dan stel ik me toch serieuze vragen bij uw logisch denkvermogen.mac-bc zei:
Ze hebben een democratisch draagvlak sinds het allemaal ofwel Amerikaanse senatoren ofwel volksvertegenwoordigers zijn.mac-bc zei:
Ik vrees dat die gestoorde idioten moeilijk aan steun binnen de partij noch aan sponsors raken, laat staan dat ze senator zouden worden.
mac-bc zei:
"Hey Iran, we vallen alle landen die niet naar de USA willen luisteren binnen, maar wees niet bang of geprovoceerd want uiteindelijk trekken we ons na honderdduizend burgerdoden en het bombarderen van al je infrastructuur toch terug en laten we enkel een tiental permanente basissen achter."
Check de Wiki eens. Die zegt genoeg.mac-bc zei:
Een virus speciaal gericht op Iraanse doelwitten, meer specifiek nucleaire installaties.
Meest gesofisticeerde ooit, duurde jaren om te maken.
En dat terwijl de USA en Israel van cyberwar een prioriteit hebben gemaakt, officieel reeds met cyberwar tegen Iran hadden gedreigd en bovendien beschouwd worden als de enigste entiteiten die in de feitelijke mogelijkheid waren om het virus te maken.
Maar ik geef toe, echt bewijs is dit niet.
Ik spreek niet over het verleden. Ik spreek over het heden.mac-bc zei:
Amerika heeft nog altijd permanente basissen in de bezette landen en de andere feiten waarop ik sprak zijn voortdurend of kortgeleden gebeurd.
Al een geluk dat Afghanistan en Irak nu heropgebouwd zijn en voorspoedige tijden beleven...
Waarom slaag je er dan niet in om mijn "theorietjes" te ontkrachten?mac-bc zei:
Let trouwens op het feit dat ik telkens mooi mijn (Westerse massamedia) bronnen geef en jij nooit bronnen vermeldt. Dus over bewijslast zou'k maar schoon zwijgen als ik u was.
Ik vermoed dat het vrij moeilijk was om een oefening op het sluiten van de straat van Hormuz elders te houden.mac-bc zei:
Als Iran volgens jou geen militaire oefeningen op eigen grondgebied of internationale wateren mag houden. Waar mag ze dan wel militaire oefeningen houden? Of mag enkel de wereldpolitie wapens hebben?
Nou ik wist niet dat bewijslast zo gevoelig lag voor jou. Waarom heb je er dan geen probleem met een aanval op Iran op basis van "allegations"?
