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Conradus zei:Ja, maar wij zijn dan ook primitieve wilden en uw aliens allesbehalve, dus waarom zouden ze dezelfde menselijke fouten maken? Want als ze gelijkaardig aan de mens zouden zijn, zouden ze nog niet zo ver zitten in de evolutie en verkenning van het heelal.
Dat zijn geen fouten die wij maken, wij doen het omdat het gemakkelijker en goedkoper is. En omdat het toch niet uitmaakt omdat het toch niet opvalt. Misschien heeft die vorm/structuur een heel andere reden. Maar er simpelweg vanuit gaan dat we, als het er zou zijn, het toch niet zouden zien lijkt me niet erg logisch.
Conradus zei:Euhm, jawel wat is het nut van iets bouwen voor de eeuwigheid (of voor lange tijd) als het uiteindelijk zijn nut niet nastreeft, als we er toch achterkomen, terwijl dat waarschijnlijk de bedoeling niet was. Waarom het anders er laten uitzien als een maan? Of je verbergt je volledig, of niet.De eerste 299.000 jaar konden we die maan toch niet zien(geen goede telescopen)
Maar wie zegt dat het nut van dat ding ons te bespiedden is. Misschien was de structuur duidelijk van intelligente afkomst maar is het door de jaren heen aangetast door inslaand stof en gesteente. Misschien was het een maan en is ze gewoon aangepast
Conradus zei:Als ze ons toch tot het besef zouden laten willen komen, waarom het dan niet gewoon melden, de een of andere duidelijke boodschap achterlaten op aarde, ze moeten toch intelligent genoeg zijn om één van de aardse talen te achterhalen? Of misschien zijn er nog gewoon geen buitenaardse wezens geweest in dit stelsel, aannemelijker.
Oh maar er zijn duidelijke boodschappen, maar willen we ze ook zien?
Boodschap #1 :
From Contact #136, October 14, 1980:
Around the time of January 19, 1981, Japan will be shaken by an earthquake,
which we calculated to be about 8 points strong, according to the Richter scale know to you.
This quake, which despite its strength will remain without great catastrophe, serves as sign of the end of the Irani-American hostage affair.
On the same day, at 21:30 P.M., the American hostages should be freed which, however, will be prevented by the power of Ayatollah, Khomeini, because with it he wants to strike the departing American President, Jimmy Carter, to whom he does not want to grant the triumph.
For this reason, he prevents the release of the prisoners the very last moment, so that the release only occurs on January 20, 1981, at about 18:23 PM.
With that for the time being, the greatest criminal extortion of the Earth world ends, which however, at a later point in time, will have weighty repercussions for the Iranian people and their government.
At first, the Iranians will be of the erroneous opinion that, due to the criminal
extortion and its consequential release of the prisoners, they have won a victory,
whereafter they soon will come to realize, that with that they have purchased all kinds of iniquity and ruin.
But their regret and realization of their erroneous idea and of their fanaticism will come too late.
Especially the new U.S. President, Ronald Reagan, will show forth his power, to
vengefully prosecute Iran.
Wat er gebeurde (van wikipedia) :
Final months
The hostages come home, as celebrated on the streets of Washington, D.C.
The death of the Shah on July 27 and the invasion of Iran by Iraq in September, 1980 made Iran more receptive to resolve the hostage crisis, while Carter lost the November 1980 presidential election to Ronald Reagan. Shortly after the election, but before the inauguration of President Reagan, the Carter administration, with the assistance of intermediaries such as Algerian diplomat Abdulkarim Ghuraib, opened fruitful negotiations between the U.S. and Iran. This resulted in the "Algiers Accords" of January 19, 1981, committing Iran to free the hostages immediately. Essential to the Algiers Accords and reportedly a non-negotiable requirement of Iran that the Carter Administration reluctantly conceded was Point I: Non-Intervention in Iranian Affairs. It reads "The United States pledges that it is and from now on will be the policy of the United States not to intervene, directly or indirectly, politically or militarily, in Iran's internal affairs." Other provisions of the Algiers Accords were unfreezing of 8 billion dollars worth of Iranian assets and immunity from lawsuits Iran might have faced. On January 20, 1981, twenty minutes after President Reagan's inaugural address, the hostages were formally released into U.S. custody, having spent 444 days in captivity. The hostages were flown to Algeria as a symbolic gesture for the help of that government in resolving the crisis, where former President Jimmy Carter, acting as an emissary for the Reagan administration, received them. The flight continued to Rhein-Main Air Base in West Germany. After medical check-ups and debriefings they took a second flight to Stewart Air Force Base in Newburgh, New York and a bus ride to the United States Military Academy, receiving a hero's welcome all along the route.
Boodschap #2 :
Presented by Quetzal
215th Contact, Saturday, February 28, 1987, 2.09 am
Horrifying weapons and a possible world war
Due to the fault of scientists, enormous power will be seized by the power-hungry and their military, their warriors and terrorists, and power will be seized as well through laser weapons of many types, but also via atomic, chemical and biological weapons. Also concerning genetic technology, enormous misuse will occur, because this will be unrestrainedly exploited for the purposes of war, not lastly due to the cloning of human beings for warring purposes, as this was practised in ancient times with the descendants of Henoch in the regions of Sirius.
However, this will not be all of the horrors; as besides the genetic technology and the chemical weapons, far worse and more dangerous and more deadly weapons of mass destruction will be produced and will be used. The irresponsible politicians will unscrupulously exercise their power, assisted by scientists and obedient military forces serving them, who together hold a deadly sceptre and will create clone-like beings which will be bred in a total lack of conscience and will be scientifically manipulated to become killer machines. Division by division and devoid of any feelings, they will destroy, murder and annihilate everything.
The USA will set out against the Eastern countries ahead of all other financial states and simultaneously she will have to defend herself against the Eastern intruders. In all, America will play the most decisive role, when in the guise to strive for peace and to fight against terrorism she invades many countries of the Earth, bombs and destroys everything and brings thousandfold deaths to the populations. The military politics of the USA will likewise know no limits, as neither will their economic and other political institutions which will be focused on building and operating a world police force, as it is the case already for a long time [sic]. But that will not be enough, and, in the guise of a so-called peaceful globalisation, American politics will aspire to gain absolute control of the world concerning supremacy in economy.
And this will point towards the possibility that a Third World War could develop from it, if human beings as a whole will not finally reflect upon reason, become reasonable and undertake the necessary steps against the insane machinations of their governments and military powers as well as their secret services, and call a halt to the power of the irresponsible who have forsaken their responsibility in all areas.
If this does not happen, many small and great nations will lose their independence and their cultural identity and will be beaten down, because the USA will gain predominance over them and with evil force bring them down under her rule. At first, many countries will howl with the wolves of the US, partially due to fear of American aggressions and sanctions, as will be the case with many, many irresponsible [ones] in Switzerland and Germany but also of other countries. In part, others will join in because they will be forced somehow to do so or will be misled by irresponsible promoters of American propaganda.
Finally, many Asian, African and European states will rise up against the American hegemony, once they recognise that the United States of America is only taking advantage of them for purposes of war, conquest and exploitation. In this way, many countries will become puppet states of America before reason and realisation will emerge in the responsible ones of governments and in many of the population, resulting in a turning away from the USA.
However, the great war will hardly be avoidable because the human beings of Earth will probably not accept the directions towards the better, therewith towards true love, true freedom and real peace, striving instead only towards wealth, pleasure and riches and for all manner of material values and unrestricted power. Thus, huge and deadly formations of tanks will roll across the countries while fighter planes and rockets sweep through the air and bring death, ruin, destruction and annihilation to countries and people.
If the Third World War will actually happen—as calculations and observations appear to indicate to be probable now and also during the approaching few decades—then, as now, the civilian population will above all have to bear the brunt of the enormous suffering in tremendous numbers in this entire catastrophe and, last but not least, the fault of the irresponsible scientists who by cloning will create human machines for military purposes, devoid of conscience and feelings, and will create immensely deadly and all-annihilating computer-like weapons. At the same time, the danger could become reality that the human combat machines, the military clones, will gain their independence and under their own management will bring death, devastation, destruction and annihilation to the human beings of Earth and to the planet.
The entire planet will become an arena of unparalleled suffering, which will never have existed before on Earth up to that time. The cruel happenings will last about 888 days and cause civilisation to collapse. Yet, the terrible scenario will continue, and epidemics and various diseases as well as enormous famine will be spread among the people, while the economy of the world will totally collapse and there will be no possibility to produce any goods. All foods and medications will be rationed.
The insanity of war will extend not only across the land, but the disaster will equally be spread to the oceans, into the atmosphere, even into outer space. But there will also be settlements under the ocean that will be developed in the course of the future and these will be attacked and destroyed, claiming the lives of many thousands of people. However, a certain maelstrom of destruction will also originate from the undersea facilities; because in the cities at the bottom of the ocean, groups of submarine pirates will be formed which will burst upwards from the depths of the ocean and will become involved in destructive actions of combat with naval units on the surface.
And at this time, the possibility could become reality that extraterrestrial forces intervene against the Western industrialised countries, because these will be responsible for the extreme and enormous disaster of the coming evil times. These extraterrestrial forces will give up their anonymity and their state of secrecy and will assist those who are being terrorised by the irresponsibly acting Western countries, should this possibility become reality.
In addition, apocalyptic natural catastrophes will occur which will cause all of Europe to shake and tremble; but Europe will continue to exist, even after having suffered enormous destruction.
Destruction in North America
Far in the West, it will be different; the United States of America will be a country of total destruction. The cause for this will be manifold. With her global conflicts which are continuously instigated by her and which will continue far into the future, America is creating enormous hatred against her, worldwide, in many countries. As a result, America will experience enormous catastrophes which will reach proportions barely imaginable to people of Earth. The destruction of the WTC, i.e., the World Trade Center, by terrorists will only be the beginning.
Yet all the apocalyptic events will not only be brought about due to the use of unbelievably deadly and destructive weapons—such as chemical, laser and others—and by cloned murder machines; but in addition to this, the Earth and nature, maltreated to the deepest depths by the irresponsible human beings of Earth, will rise up and cause destruction and bring death onto the Earth. Enormous firestorms and gigantic hurricanes will sweep over the USA and bring devastation, destruction and annihilation, as this from time immemorial never before will have happened [sic].
Not only will America, but also all other Western industrial countries which still live at the beginning of the new millennium in the delusion that they could dominate and rule over underdeveloped nations, i.e., Third World countries, will not only soon lose influence over these but must defend themselves against them.
According to the prophecies of Henoch, the truth about industrialised countries is that they only seem to appear to be true civilisations, but in fact they are not; because more and more, at the end of the 20th century and at the beginning of the third millennium, they will disregard all true love, true freedom and true wisdom as well as true peace along with all values of humaneness and all values of men's and women's true being.
But not even all the terrible happenings will hinder the USA in continuing to proceed with her actions against all countries. Even when the North American continent will be stricken by the most terrible catastrophe which has ever been recorded, evil military powers will wreak havoc with computerised and nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, whereby it will also happen that computerised weapons become independent and cannot be controlled any longer by human beings. Overall, this is the most important part of Henoch's prophecies.
Nog eentje:
http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/PlejaransWish.pdf
Conradus zei:Nee, achter enkele foto's van iets bijzondere structuren, -maar zoals je zelf zei, we kennen nog geen miljoenste van het heelal,dus wie weet hoe bijzonder die structuren zijn- verzinnen zijn theorieën, oa voortvloeiende uit sf-verhalen, ze ontkennen het niet eens, de ondertitel van de site is niet voor niks, hoeveel wist A.C. Clark?Hij was er immers voor de beelden mee begonnen. Het helpt hun geloofwaardigheid zeker niet.
Het doet er toch niet toe wie met het idee komt om over de argumenten te discussiëren? Hij heeft wel gelijk dat rechte lijnen voor zover we weten betrekkelijk weinig voorkomen in de natuur.. en wat ik daar zie zijn betrekkelijk rechte lijnen, maar dat wil niet zeggen dat ik daarom geloof wat ze op die site zeggen, dus de betrouwbaarheid van die site doet weinig ter zaken.
