El_L4mor zei:
zou je dat eens kunnen quoten aub? ik vind enkel kritieken (positieve en negatieve) terug op die pagina...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_influences_and_analogues
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Tom Brown's Schooldays
The Harry Potter series draws upon a long tradition of boarding school-set children's literature in English. This school story genre originated in the Victorian era with Tom Brown's Schooldays, by Thomas Hughes. Tom Brown's Schooldays laid down a basic structure which has been widely imitated, for example in Anthony Buckeridge's 1950s Jennings books.[16][17]
Both Tom Brown's Schooldays and Harry Potter involve an average eleven-year old, better at sport than academic study, who is sent to boarding school. Upon arrival, the boy gains a best friend (In Tom's case, East, in Harry's case, Ron Weasley) who helps him adjust to the new environment. They are set upon by an arrogant bully — in Tom Brown's case, Flashman, in Harry's case Draco Malfoy. Stephen Fry, who both narrates the British audio adaptations of the Harry Potter novels and has starred in a screen adaptation of Tom Brown, has commented many times about the similarities between the two books. "Harry Potter - a boy who arrives in this strange school to board for the first time and makes good, solid friends and also enemies who use bullying and unfair tactics," notes Fry, "then is ambiguous about whether or not he is going to be good or bad. His pluck and his endeavour, loyalty, good nature and bravery are the things that carry him through - and that is the story of Tom Brown's Schooldays".[18]
[edit] The Lord of the Rings
Fans of author JRR Tolkien have drawn attention to the similarities between his novel The Lord of the Rings and the Harry Potter series; specifically Tolkien's Wormtongue and Rowling's Wormtail, Tolkien's Shelob and Rowling's Aragog, Rowling's Dementors and Tolkien's Nazgûl, The Whomping Willow and Old Man Willow and similarities between both authors' antagonists, Tolkien's Dark Lord Sauron and Rowling's Lord Voldemort (both of whom are sometimes within their respective continuties unnamed due to intense fear surrounding their names).[19] Rowling maintains that she hadn't read The Hobbit until after she completed the first Harry Potter novel (though she had read The Lord of the Rings as a teenager) and that any similarities between her books and Tolkien's are "fairly superficial. Tolkien created a whole new mythology, which I would never claim to have done. On the other hand, I think I have better jokes."[20] Tolkienian scholar Thomas Shippey has maintained that no "modern writer of epic fantasy has managed to escape the mark of Tolkien, no matter how hard many of them have tried".[21]
[edit] Roald Dahl
Many have drawn attention to the similarities between Rowling's works and those of Roald Dahl, particularly in the depiction of the Dursley family, which echoes the nightmarish guardians seen in many of Dahl's books, such as the Wormwoods from Matilda, Aunt Sponge and Aunt Spiker from James and the Giant Peach, and Grandma from George's Marvelous Medicine.[22][23] Rowling acknowledges that there are similarities, but believes that at a deeper level, her works are different from those of Dahl; in her words, more "moral." [24]
[edit] The Dark is Rising
Susan Cooper's Dark is Rising sequence of stories (commenced with Over Sea, Under Stone in 1965 and now more commonly bound in a single volume) have been compared to the Harry Potter series. The sequence's second volume, also called The Dark is Rising, features a young boy named Will Stanton who, much like Harry Potter, discovers on his eleventh birthday that he is in fact imbued with magical power; in Will's case, that he is the last of the Old Ones, beings empowered by the Light to battle the Dark. The books open in much the same way, with Will finding that people are telling him strange things and that animals run from him.[25][26]
[edit] A Wizard of Earthsea
The basic premise of Ursula K. Le Guin's A Wizard of Earthsea (1968), in which a boy with unusual aptitude for magic is recognised, and sent to a special school for wizards, resembles that of Harry Potter.[27] The hero encounters Jasper, a typically unpleasant Draco-like rival, in the Flashman tradition.[28] Le Guin has claimed that she doesn't feel Rowling "ripped her off," but that she felt that the books were overpraised for supposed originality, and that Rowling "could have been more gracious about her predecessors."[29]
[edit] The Worst Witch
Many critics have noted that Jill Murphy's The Worst Witch series (first published in 1974), is set in a school for girls, "Miss Cackle's Academy of Witchcraft", remarkably reminiscent of Hogwarts.[30][31] The school is hosted in an ancient castle on a remote hill surrounded by a forest. Classes include potions, chants and broomstick flying. Though the headmistress is kind and understanding, the hooknosed Potions mistress is harsh and unpleasant. She is particularly cruel towards the protagonist, a young witch named Mildred Hubble - but Mildred's nemesis is her pet student.[32]
[edit] Charmed Life
In Diana Wynne Jones' Charmed Life (1977), two orphaned children receive magical education while living in a castle. The setting is a world resembling early 1900 Britain, where magic is commonplace. Diana Wynne Jones has stated in answer to a question on her webpage: "I think Ms Rowling did get quite a few of her ideas from my books - though I have never met her, so I have never been able to ask her. My books were written many years before the Harry Potter books (Charmed Life was first published in 1977), so any similarities probably come from what she herself read as a child. Once a book is published, out in the world, it is sort of common property, for people to take ideas from and use, and I think this is what happened to my books." [33]
[edit] Discworld
Before the arrival of J. K. Rowling, Britain's bestselling author was comic fantasy writer Terry Pratchett. His Discworld books, beginning with The Colour of Magic in 1983, satirise and parody common fantasy literature conventions. Pratchett is repeatedly asked if he "got" his idea for his magic college, the Unseen University, from Harry Potter's Hogwarts, or if the young wizard Ponder Stibbons, who has dark hair and glasses, was inspired by Harry Potter. Both in fact predate Rowling's work by several years; Pratchett jokingly claims that yes he did steal them, though "I of course used a time machine."[34] The BBC and other British news agencies have emphasised a supposed rivalry between Pratchett and Rowling,[35][36][37] but Pratchett has said on record that, while he doesn't put Rowling on a pedestal, he doesn't consider her a bad writer, nor does he envy her success.[38] Claims of rivalry were due to a letter he wrote to The Sunday Times, about an article published declaring that fantasy "looks backward to an idealized, romanticized, pseudofeudal world, where knights and ladies morris-dance to Greensleeves". [39] In actual fact, he was protesting the ineptitude of journalists in that genre, many of whom did not research their work and, in this case, contradicted themselves in the same article.[40]
[edit] Young Sherlock Holmes
Chris Columbus, who directed the first two Harry Potter film adaptations, has cited the 1985 film Young Sherlock Holmes, which he wrote, as an influence in his direction for those films. "That was sort of a predecessor to this movie, in a sense," he told the BBC in 2001, "It was about two young boys and a girl in a British boarding school who had to fight a supernatural force."[41] Scenes from Young Sherlock Holmes were subsequently used to cast the first Harry Potter film.[42]
[edit] Troll
The Charles Band-produced low-budget horror/fantasy film Troll, directed by John Carl Buechler and starring Noah Hathaway, Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Sonny Bono, features a character named "Harry Potter Jr." In an interivew with M. J. Simpson, Band claimed, "I've heard that JK Rowling has acknowledged that maybe she saw this low-budget movie and perhaps it inspired her."[43] However, a search of Accio Quote, the largest searchable online archive of JK Rowling interviews, produces no evidence in support, and Rowling has said on record multiple times that the name "Harry Potter" was derived in part from a childhood friend, Ian Potter, and in part from her favourite male name, Harry.[44][45][46]
[edit] The Books of Magic
Fans of the comic book series The Books of Magic, by Neil Gaiman (first published in 1990 by DC Comics) have cited similarities to the Harry Potter story. These include a dark-haired English boy with glasses, named Timothy Hunter, who on his twelfth birthday discovers his potential as the most powerful wizard of the age upon being approached by magic-wielding individuals, the first of whom makes him a gift of a pet owl. Similarities led the British tabloid paper the Daily Mirror to claim Gaiman had made accusations of plagiarism against Rowling, which he went on the record denying, saying the similarities were either coincidence, or drawn from the same fantasy archetypes. "I thought we were both just stealing from T.H. White", he said in an interview, "very straightforward."[47]
[edit] Wizard's Hall
In 1991, the author Jane Yolen released a book called Wizard's Hall, which bears resemblance to the Potter series and its characters. The main protagonist, Henry and not Harry (AKA Thornmallow), is a young boy who joins a magical school for young wizards.[48] Yolen has been very critical of Rowling's work, and has complained publicly that she believes she stole her ideas. In an interview with the magazine Newsweek, Yolen said that "I always tell people that if Ms. Rowling would like to cut me a very large check, I would cash it."[49]
[edit] The Secret of Platform 13
Eva Ibbotson's The Secret of Platform 13 (first published in 1994) features a gateway to a magical world located on an underground railway platform. The protagonist belongs to the magical world but is raised in our world by a rich family who neglect him and treat him as a servant, while their fat and unpleasant biological son is pampered and spoiled. Amanda Craig is one example of a journalist who has written about the similarities: "Ibbotson would seem to have at least as good a case for claiming plagiarism as the American author currently suing J. K. Rowling [i.e. Nancy Stouffer], but unlike her, Ibbotson says she would 'like to shake her by the hand. I think we all borrow from each other as writers.'"[50]
als toverstaffen en bezems jouw idee zijn van iets kinderachtigs, dan kan je veel fantasy boeken kinderachtig noemen. Deze elementen komen weliswaar uit sprookjes, maar geloof het of niet, ontzettend veel boeken halen dergelijk materiaal uit sprookjes. Denk bijvoorbeeld aan LOTR, waar tovenaars, dwergen, toverstaffen, sprekende bomen, etc. schering en inslag zijn. En het duistere sfeertje van LOTR is zeker ook aanwezig in Harry Potter, zei het niet in de eerste boeken.
Nochtans geen bezemsteels daar, ik zeg niet dat het kinderachtig is om te lenen van sprookjes ik zeg dat vliegen op bezemstelen in een verhaal iets kinderachtig is. Zeg me eens in welke boeken jij vliegen op bezemstelen terug vind? Juist kinderboeken, in geen enkele fantasy boek hem ikd at ooit tegengekomen, zelfde grotendeels voor toverstafjes.
De eerste boeken vind ik trouwens ook nog wel voor een iets jongere leeftijd, maar de laatse 3-4 boeken vind ik toch echt wel voor een hogere leeftijd.
Goh op het nieuws vind je veel ergere dingen dan in de harry potter boeken hoor. De eerste boeken zijn idd nog wat kinderachtiger (niet dat daar iets mis mee is hoor) de hele reeks is gericht op 10-15 jarigen zou ik zeggen.
Enfin op zich maakt de leeftijd mij ook zoveel niet uit, maar door de merchandising, de films en de vele publiciteit heeft Rowling haar boeken ook altijd de uitstraling van kinderboeken willen geven he. Wat ik niet erg goed snap, zeker als er daarna ook een 'adult' versie werd gelanceerd
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Het was een kinderboek dat ze geschreven had, toen het later ook bij volwassenen aansloeg hebben ze gewoon een wat andere cover gemaakt, voor de rest zijn de boeken indentiek dacht ik.
Het zou een beetje raar zijn dat na boek 3 (toen ze echt populair werden dacht ik) ze plots over zou schakelen naar volwassen boeken he?
elfen, centaurs, reuzen, tovenaars, trollen, horcruxes, een herrijzende dark lord, ... het is allemaal al wel gebruikt geweest in het fantasy-genre. Is de serie daarom minder goed?
ben er mee opgegroeid en was eigenlijk eerste boek dat ik gelezen had, kwas dan wel begonne bij de gevangene van Azkaban maar maakt nie zo veel verschil hé