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RaZoR be zei:Die Manor heeft 0 km gereden en de rijders al helemaal niets...
Sauber is, of course, to blame for this, but one can understand the motivations behind the decision. The original plan, as I understand it, was to have Jules Bianchi and Van der Garde as the team’s drivers in 2015. The inclusion of the Frenchman ensured a top talent and also backing for the team (probably in the form of an engine discount) from Ferrari. Van der Garde was included because he would be able to provide considerable funding for the team, through his sponsors, largely related to his father-in-law Marcel Boekhoorn.
After Bianchi was injured in October, it became clear to Sauber that the plan needed to be changed as Ferrari was no longer in a position to help the team as it was going to do. The team still has an arrangement with the Italian team, to have Raffaele Marciello as its test driver, but this meant that the team still has a hole in its 2015 budget. Perhaps more importantly, so I am told, the team was in a cash-flow crisis at the time because of the failure of Russian backers to deliver money that had been promised and because the plan to develop a relationship with Simona de Silvestro had also run into financial trouble. The word is that Marcus Ericsson’s backers were willing to pay Sauber a substantial sum of money on signature of a 2015 contract which meant that the team was instantly out of immediate financial danger, but that still meant that there was more money required to get to a sensible budget in 2015. Thus when Felipe Nasr came along with more money than Van der Garde, it was the obvious solution to the problem.
Ericsson and Nasr are pay-drivers just as Van der Garde is a pay-driver, but with more money and no real evidence to show that Van der Garde would produce better results it was logical for the team to secure its financial future and hope to be able to score the best possible results, so as not to risk losing its TV money in 2015.
LeBram_James zei:Hoe zit dat eigelijk met Stevens & Merhi's superlicentie?
xDama zei:
fulcoboy zei:Sky Sports F1
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“What we cannot do is jeopardise the safety of our team, or any other driver on the track, by having an unprepared driver in a car that has now been tailored to two other assigned drivers.”
eniac zei:Tja, ik ben het niet eens met dat stuk van Saward (en dat gebeurt wel vaker). Het zou logisch zijn dat ze voor meer geld kiezen als ze zich daarmee op juridisch vlak niet zwaar in de puree zouden steken. Ik blijft erbij, ik kan het niet begrijpen dat er zo'n blunders worden begaan door een team.
Daarnaast is het niet eens volledig juist - dat zitje van Manor ligt helemaal niet vast, Merhi brengt immers nauwelijks geld mee en is enkel aangekondigd voor de eerste races. Dus dat kan zonder twijfel weer beschikbaar komen indien er iemand met geld aanklopt.
Saward weet alleszins waarover hij praat. Ik denk gewoon dat je onderschat hoe moeilijk Sauber het heeft op financieel vlak en dan kan ik perfect begrijpen dat er zo'n keuzes gemaakt worden. Als we al spreken van een keuze, want ze hadden waarschijnlijk gewoon geen andere optie.xDama zei:Dan geef ik het opSaward weet alleszins waarover hij praat. Ik denk gewoon dat je onderschat hoe moeilijk Sauber het heeft op financieel vlak en dan kan ik perfect begrijpen dat er zo'n keuzes gemaakt worden. Als we al spreken van een keuze, want ze hadden waarschijnlijk gewoon geen andere optie.
Fryto zei:Stel dat ze Van der Garde toch laten rijden (geen idee wat de sanctie anders is), dan vermoed ik dat Ericsson gewipt wordt? Aan hun livery te zien brengt Nasr met Banco do Brasil van beide zeker het meeste geld binnen.
DrWho zei:Waar kan je De indycar nog meenemen op tv? Eurosport?
Wil dat nog wel eens enkele races van meepikken, ze zijn daar blijkbaar wat van de eenheidsworst afgestapt.
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Uiteraard niet op de Belgische tv. Ik weet dat eurosport het vroeger wel eens uitgezonden heeft, vandaar.xTwL- zei:Haha. Belgische TV? Motorsport? Met wat geluk hebben we dit seizoen nog F1 en op Eursport GP3/WTCC/FR3.5. Laat staan een motorsport uit exclusief in de VSA.
fulcoboy zei:Kwaliteit:
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There is shambolic, as in McLaren’s winter testing and then there is flat-out travesty. I’ve spent the last three hours listening to my phone. At the other end is another German who emigrated to Australia many moons ago and served in the army with me 20 years ago. He holds his phone in front the speaker of his TV set. In fact, it is still going on as I write this. And god almighty am I po’ed!
This is beyond bringing the sport into disrepute. This is Monisha Kaltenborn grabbing a microphone and shouting – “chocolate fudge cake y’all we already have your money. So why don’t you just sod off?”
This whole appeal was started for one reason only, to stall for time. Sauber is trying to waste the time of Australia’s judicial system until the deadline passes at which they have to register Giedo van der Garde as their driver with FIA, which is 3 hours from now. I’m actually surprised that their lawyer didn’t start reading Tolstoy’s “War and Peace” just to filibuster the raw stuffing out of the whole proceedings. But considering his performance so far, he probably thinks Tolstoy is something expensive to eat.
I have no – absolutely zilch, nada, zero – respect left for the current Sauber management. Monisha Kaltenborn did not only publicly destroy the life’s work of her mentor Peter Sauber, she also set up a field day for all the macho’s and sexists, who insisted that a woman should wear white, like every other kitchen appliance. She has burned all the bridges that could have paved the way for the female of the species. Now it is all left to Claire Williams as the last beacon of hope.
I will try to give you the recap of the proceedings, but having heard it live, it was obvious that Sauber were in complete contempt of court and just tried to stall the proceedings. I must really pace myself or Clarkson is not the only hack who’s been suspended by the morning.
Again Sauber cite Giedo van der Garde’s lack of superlicense as yet another reason why they can’t put the Dutch equivalent of a live thermonuclear weapon (if their lawyer is to be believed) in their car, despite the fact that they’ve been proven otherwise last night. To make his point, VdG’s lawyer reminds them that filing the paperwork for a superlicense is the team’s responsibility, embarrassing Sauber’s advocate, who by now is known as the world’s most useless lawyer, even further.
It looks like Justice Croft is not suffering fools lightely and and he reminds the Sauber camp: “The point is you agreed to do something and that’s what you should be doing.”
The few remaining Sauber apologetics and the hapless idiots they hired to dilute the venom in several mainstream internet forums were harping on about how VdG waited until the last minute to hit Sauber, until his Honour reminded them that the Swiss arbitration decision has a ‘Dec 3rd 2014′ stamp on it. As Adam Cooper so lyrically put it:
After Sauber’s idiot lawyer is done making a complete fool of himself, it’s time to hear the cavalry of Nasr and Ericsson:
And it starts off with another bash across Monisha’s teeth as both of them say they were not informed that Sauber had already been whacked by the Swiss arbitration court. Talk about walking into a surprising situation. If it is any consolation. They sound much more competent and confident than the gormless dolt Sauber have have hired. Guess they had to go for the cheap option. And that after defrauding five drivers – talk about mismanagement!
Nasr’s lawyer dryly explains that Sauber somehow forgot to inform VdG and Sutil about the fact that his client had been signed: “What we have here is a failure to communicate.”
That’s one way to put it, pal.
And *boom* just as you thought it couldn’t get any more ridiculous, we learn that Monisha Kaltenborn informed the Contract Recognition Board on March 4th 2015 that the contract of VdG was terminated on Feb 6th 2015 – two months after a Swiss court ruled that his contract was valid and 5 months after she told him about it by SMS. Is that woman smoking pot?
LOL! You can’t make this fairy cakes up! Sauber now claims that VdG’s contract was terminated in February because of his talking to the press about not being run at the winter test despite being signed up as a regular driver. According to the crackpots at Hinwil he broke the ‘non-disclosure’ clause.
And more travesty ensues. The judges will deliver the verdict at 16:30 local. That’s 30 minutes after the deadline for signing up drivers expires. Whatever happens now. Sauber can now legally refuse to run VdG.
All is well in F1 Land.
Adam Cooper @adamcooperF1 · 6m 6 minutes ago
To clarify what's happening, @GvanderGarde has filed a Contempt of Court Application to force @SauberF1Team to comply with the order
Adam Cooper @adamcooperF1 · 5m 5 minutes ago
If @SauberF1Team hasn't taken steps by 1030am Friday to comply and allow @GvanderGarde to drive, sequestration orders could follow
Adam Cooper
‏@adamcooperF1
And then we get into potential seizing of the @SauberF1Team assets in the paddock and action against Monisha Kaltenborn as a director