Archief - le_cheater!
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|GM|
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Where did u get that from? never happend afaikTyfius zei:
You see that it wasn't him, so now you make up accusations to justify that he is better than you?Crexis:
I hope i understood this correctly, so i'll give an answer:Silax zei:
Problems should be targeted at the source
Correct, but that means it could be you or crexis as wellMetochke zei:lol GM... you froget the factor that not everyone with skynet ADSL play UT or is on IRC. so the chance that it was rhy gets bigger with a couple of million times
|GM|
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Silly?$eNs3i zei:rofl GM, i know ur a pro in defending your teammates in these cases but don't be silly
I'm amusing myself about the short-sightedness of a few people, is that really so wrong to do?
If you have skynet, it could be you as well, for all we know
I am trying to show that it's pathetic to point the finger at anyone... You have to target the whole Belgian Instagib community with Skynet ADSL then.
Metochke
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basically it means : someone that knows rhy (and / or hates him) took a screenshot of rhy's ip, waited to connect on a server with cheats when he has rhy's ip BACK then (according to you a long time ago since you wasn't kZ back then) and then accuse rhy of cheating ( and it's a BE guy with ADSL skynet).
can you calculate how many /1 chances their is that that happened?
this doesn't mean that i say rhy cheated or not.
can you calculate how many /1 chances their is that that happened?
this doesn't mean that i say rhy cheated or not.
Tyfius
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|GM| zei:Where did u get that from? never happend afaik
I browsed some forums and indeed, i didn't found anything, but i'm 100% sure there was a post on this one a while back. Unfortunately the forum's are cleaned and a lot of posts deleted, so no results on this one either.
But I'm sure to let you know if I find it.
mental note:
- if someone has mode +x, how can you view his IP ?
- what are the chances that someone with skynet, with the same ip as rhy once had, with his name cheats ?
|GM|
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Even if what you said made sense it would be a complex calculation. I don't see why anyone needs to take a screenie. If someone would want to set him up it would be very unlikely he could do that within 5 years of him having ADSL... unless he would all the time reconnect on purpose to get a new IP and then check if that IP matches one of the IP-s rhy had sometimeMetochke zei:basically it means : someone that knows rhy (and / or hates him) took a screenshot of rhy's ip, waited to connect on a server with cheats when he has rhy's ip BACK then (according to you a long time ago since you wasn't kZ back then) and then accuse rhy of cheating ( and it's a BE guy with ADSL skynet).
can you calculate how many /1 chances their is that that happened?
this doesn't mean that i say rhy cheated or not.
And even that would be highly unlikely.
But i think i proved that it can be anyone on Skynet ADSL who was on that server... Such things have happened before anyway with other people, not that they have cheated, but that they had the same IP.
I am just too lazy to make a program that would scan my logs for such IP "collisions"
|GM|
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1) You can't unless you're an IRC Operator.Tyfius zei:
2) Where did you see "With his name" all that crexis' post proves is that rhy had the ip of the cheater like 5 months ago once.
The cheater was caught today and not 5 months ago, so if it was rhy it means that within 5 months rhy-s IP must not have changed. But his IP changes every 36 hours. And the player on the server did not have the nick -Kz.rhytm- did he ? lol
So basically how high is the probability that rhy-s IP changed to what it was 5 months ago randomly exactly today? (at least 455175 to 1 probability, but in fact it's much more due to not counting the probability of it being free + consider the dates). Cmon dude, your logic is seriously flawed.3) Rhytm doesn't use mode+x, he uses a BNC
Oh and Tyfius, i didn't reply to your previous post about royal, coz i think it's just pathetic... [BOLD]You should stop making stuff up.[/BOLD] I think your paranoia and immense imagination is seriously affecting your judgement. You've been inventing things like all the time, perhaps you should consider medical treatement.
The only one who was "caught" was Stacie with a non-matching checksum on one package on KiK server, after she reconnected to get a different ip she could get in fine.
It was not MD5, it was nuffy-s buggy protection + no hashes corresponded to any hacked packages, TNSe confirmed that in PM by saying that Nuffy doesn't know what he's doing half of the time.
I have a log of that if u want
Tyfius
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http://bot1.multiplay.co.uk/cheats/?p=rip&ip=81.240.154.9
taking the time to send a message to irc, the wrong clock of the server, and the wrong clock of crexis we get:
now, why would !apoc refer to rhy ?
rhy is offline now, so !apoc gives:
!apoc 9-154.240.81.adsl.skynet.be results:
now why would the only reason i can think of rhy's name is resulted is because he's logged into the list.
Last time I checked it only logged you because someone did a match on you or you were banned on a server.
so, someone did an apoc on this when rhy had this ip.
You say you found this ip in a log from a long time ago.
afaik this service doesn't excist that very long.
sincerly
taking the time to send a message to irc, the wrong clock of the server, and the wrong clock of crexis we get:
now, why would !apoc refer to rhy ?
rhy is offline now, so !apoc gives:
!apoc 9-154.240.81.adsl.skynet.be results:
now why would the only reason i can think of rhy's name is resulted is because he's logged into the list.
Last time I checked it only logged you because someone did a match on you or you were banned on a server.
so, someone did an apoc on this when rhy had this ip.
You say you found this ip in a log from a long time ago.
afaik this service doesn't excist that very long.
sincerly
|GM|
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Well, it doesTyfius zei:
It obviously existed 5 months ago, or there were logs which were merged into the database which was created.
What your apoc crap doesn't give, is that the IP was recorded 5 months ago.
I checked your profile, you have C++ etc in your interests. Well if you're a programmer, then you should know simple logics lol.
Oh and something else i just found out
Exactly at the time that cheater was caught... (provided it's the 17.10.2004) rhytm was playing a praccy with Kz with 4 other people on ventrilo...
So be my guest and let me know how he can do two things at the same time rofl...
Metochke
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|GM| zei:
i can provide that tho...
[19:21:10] [+the-ase] New Ban: N!gth-St!ck Server: MPUK|TDM1 Reason: elfLITE.elfConfig,elfLITE Config IP: 81.240.154.9 Host: 9-154.240.81.adsl.skynet.be !apoc Match: 1
[19:21:24] •›› Part: [V3ndor] [[email protected]] [Leaving]
• Quit: (DIE|PEPE_NO_GOO) ([email protected]) (Ping timeout)
[19:21:45] [TaeK] !apoc 9-154.240.81.adsl.skynet.be
[19:21:46] [+Dirty-Harry] Host Match Successful: Kz|rhy`
and if you want a screenie of my irc... sure np
|GM|
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no one denies that IP was found, it's just a coincidence it was his...Metochke zei:i can provide that tho...
[19:21:10] [+the-ase] New Ban: N!gth-St!ck Server: MPUK|TDM1 Reason: elfLITE.elfConfig,elfLITE Config IP: 81.240.154.9 Host: 9-154.240.81.adsl.skynet.be !apoc Match: 1
[19:21:24] •›› Part: [V3ndor] [[email protected]] [Leaving]
• Quit: (DIE|PEPE_NO_GOO) ([email protected]) (Ping timeout)
[19:21:45] [TaeK] !apoc 9-154.240.81.adsl.skynet.be
[19:21:46] [+Dirty-Harry] Host Match Successful: Kz|rhy`
and if you want a screenie of my irc... sure np
It could have been yours or whoever elses who has skynet. Read my post before posting the crap and if you have even 1 bit of logical thinking in yourself and some basic SECONDARY SCHOOL mathematic knowledge then you would know what i am talking about is true.
Metochke
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|GM| zei:
i am just answerring on your statements dude. you said crexis did not provide an hour when the ip was traced... well i gave the hour when the ip was traced. so it ain't crap? you ask for smt... i proivde the correct thigns.. if that's crap... well just get out of here then?
i really don't need anyone to tell me what to post or not tbh. i post everything in a nice an friendly way... i post what is asked... and still i get jack shit respect for a post like that? well thx alot then. i'm not gonna go further in this discussion cause it's simply NOT worth it. proves are stated. ip collision is possible however the chances that that happen are REALLY slight. we get your point aswell GM. so let's just have our own opinions shall we?
Time
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Metochke zei:
but like u said, the chances ARE there, I though someone was innocent until their guilt was proven. It's very likely he cheated but not proven. Just imagine the collision DID happened, it was pure coincidence... and he gets banned, just cuz the community believes the 9x% chance over Rhy's word...
Besides, half the community is now convinced he cheated so his reputation is fucked up anyhow, if he cheated, I'd say give him benefit of the doubt and have him deal with half the community up his ass.
Like u all want to believe, once a cheater always a cheater. If he cheats he'll cheat again right?^^
Yes everyone has his excuses like "it was on a lan-party for fun, forgot to uninstall" or "it was my brother", lame excuses indeed but still some of them aren't lying
my 2 (very worthless) cents :')
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