Archief - Rap

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boogje

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Hey, ik ben nog echt een beginneling als het gaat over rap/Hip-hop en dergelijke, want een tijdje geleden heb ik de groep Fort Minor ontdekt. Ik had daarvoor al rap gezien van 50cent, maar ik kan die kerel, én zijn muziek echt niet luchten. Het kan me echt niks schelen wat ie gaat doen in de snoepwinkel of dergelijke. Tot dan dacht ik dat rap enkel wat valse pocherij is, maar toen ik liedjes hoorde van Fort Minor, veranderde mijn mening wel. De teksten vind ik goed, in tegenstelling tot 50cent/ snoop dog, andere talloze rappers. Eminem vind ik ook wel goed, zijn vroegere liedjes zijn ridicuul grappig, zijn nieuwe zijn serieus en bevinden zich in het rapgenre een beetje bij Fort Minor.

Voor welke soort Rap zijn jullie? 50 cent en consoorten? of toch maar liedjes met iets meer inhoud?


om af te sluiten én het verschil duidelijk te maken, krijg je hieronder een lyric van 50 cent, eentje van Fort Minor. Lees en vergelijk :

Fort Minor
"Kenji"

"My father came from Japan in 1905
He was 15 when he immigrated from Japan
He worked until he was able to buy - to actually build a store"

Let me tell you the story in the form of a dream,
I don't know why I have to tell it but I know what it means,
Close your eyes, just picture the scene,
As I paint it for you, it was World War II,
When this man named Kenji woke up,
Ken was not a soldier,
He was just a man with a family who owned a store in LA,
That day, he crawled out of bed like he always did,
Bacon and eggs with wife and kids,
He lived on the second floor of a little store he ran,
He moved to LA from Japan,
They called him 'Immigrant,'
In Japanese, he'd say he was called "Issei,"
That meant 'First Generation In The United States,'
When everyone was afraid of the Germans, afraid of the Japs,
But most of all afraid of a homeland attack,
And that morning when Ken went out on the doormat,
His world went black 'cause,
Right there; front page news,
Three weeks before 1942,
"Pearl Harbour's Been Bombed And The Japs Are Comin',"
Pictures of soldiers dyin' and runnin',
Ken knew what it would lead to,
Just like he guessed, the President said,
"The evil Japanese in our home country will be locked away,"
They gave Ken, a couple of days,
To get his whole life packed in two bags,
Just two bags, couldn't even pack his clothes,
Some folks didn't even have a suitcase, to pack anything in,
So two trash bags is all they gave them,
When the kids asked mom "Where are we goin'?"
Nobody even knew what to say to them,
Ken didn't wanna lie, he said "The US is lookin' for spies,
So we have to live in a place called Manzanar,
Where a lot of Japanese people are,"
Stop it don't look at the gunmen,
You don't wanna get the soldiers wonderin',
If you gonna run or not,
'Cause if you run then you might get shot,
Other than that try not to think about it,
Try not to worry 'bout it; bein' so crowded,
Someday we'll get out, someday, someday.

As soon as war broke out
The F.B.I. came and they just come to the house and
"You have to come"
"All the Japanese have to go"
They took Mr. Ni
People didn't understand
Why did they have to take him?
Because he's an innocent laborer

So now they're in a town with soldiers surroundin' them,
Every day, every night look down at them,
From watch towers up on the wall,
Ken couldn't really hate them at all;
They were just doin' their job and,
He wasn't gonna make any problems,
He had a little garden with vegetables and fruits that,
He gave to the troops in a basket his wife made,
But in the back of his mind, he wanted his families life saved,
Prisoners of war in their own damn country,
What for?
Time passed in the prison town,
He wanted them to live it down when they were free,
The only way out was joinin' the army,
And supposedly, some men went out for the army, signed on,
And ended up flyin' to Japan with a bomb,
That 15 kilotonne blast, put an end to the war pretty fast,
Two cities were blown to bits; the end of the war came quick,
Ken got out, big hopes of a normal life, with his kids and his wife,
But, when they got back to their home,
What they saw made them feel so alone,
These people had trashed every room,
Smashed in the windows and bashed in the doors,
Written on the walls and the floor,
"Japs not welcome anymore."
And Kenji dropped both of his bags at his sides and just stood outside,
He, looked at his wife without words to say,
She looked back at him wiping tears away,
And, said "Someday we'll be okay, someday,"
Now the names have been changed, but the story's true,
My family was locked up back in '42,
My family was there it was dark and damp,
And they called it an internment camp

"When we first got back from camp... uhh
It was... pretty... pretty bad"

"I, I remember my husband said
"Are we gonna stay 'til last?"
Then my husband died before they close the camp."


50cent

"Fat Bitch"
(feat. G-Unit)

We over here... with some fat chicks

[50]
Nah, I don't be fuckin wit them fat bitches
That's Yayo

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (you know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes (compliment my eyes)
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[50]
Them Twinkies got your ass gettin' fat fat
Them cookies got your ass gettin' fat fat
That cake got your ass gettin' fat fat
Bitch you grown, that ain't baby fat fat

In the gym I see your ass up on the stair master
But you got it on level 2, bitch go a little faster
Look girl I ain't gon lie, I'll tell you how I feel
They should hand cuff your big ass to the treadmill
You wanna work out now, cause you know its gettin' hot
And your big ass fin to pop all up out the halter top
Find the right chick, wearing some tight shit, and it's on
See your ass wearing some tight shit, we like "She wrong"

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes (compliment my eyes)

[50]
Yeah, you got some nice eyes, but you's a big bitch man
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat
That Burger King dun got your ass fat fat
McDonald's dun got your ass fat fat
That Dominos dun got your ass fat fat
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[Lloyd Banks]
I like 'em slim in the waste, curves in the right place
A bitch wit hips, lips, and a nice face
Your appetite'll put a dent up in a nigga salary
You need to stop burnin that weed, and burn a calorie
Your attitude is like you always have gear
You got a pony tail, you ain't always have hair
I just wanna see your Capri's comin' down
Mami we run the town, stay away if you 300 pounds

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes

[50]
I'll say something nice about ya eyes, cause you's a big bitch man
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat
Them Entenmann's dun got your ass fat fat
Them Little Debbie's dun got your ass fat fat
These cup cakes dun got your ass fat fat
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[Tony Yayo]
I ain't no trick, I ain't have to borrow with my wallet
Freakin' off in your car, on your closet
It ain't nothing wrong wit a big, strong girl
If you can cook your ass off, I'll give you the world
You can be skinny or fat, white or black
Nigga pussy is pussy so, yeah, I'll hit that
I'm a freak, sure I love minage a trois
And I really care lees if you twice my size

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world ' It's a nasty world
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl
I ain't never gon discriminate, so let me compliment your eyes

[50]
I'm a compliment your eyes
Yayo'll fuck wit you big bitches but I'm a stay the fuck away from ya

Them Twinkies got your ass gettin' fat fat
Them cookies got your ass gettin' fat fat
That cake got your ass gettin' fat fat
Bitch you grown, that ain't baby fat fat

Stay the fuck away from, you fuckin fat bitch
Fuck wit Tony Yayo, ho

;)

skampy

Legacy Member
The Roots, Gangstarr, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Blackstar, Declaime, Sound Providers, Jay Dee, Madlib, Jaylib, Madvillain, Common, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Bahamadia, DJ Krush, DJ Shadow, RJD2, Lefto, Krewcial, Slum Village, Oh No, MED, Jurassic 5, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, DJ Spinna, Kero One, DJ Mitsu the Beats, Platinum Pied Pipers, Sa-Ra Creative Partners,...

da's zowat mijn favoriete hiphop, da's dus zeker niet allemaal alleen rap.

Chimmy

Legacy Member
Ik ken helemaal niet veel van rap/hippediehop maar dat er ergens betere muziek in dat genre bestaat dan 50cent en zn vriendjes, dat wist ik ook al lang :) Kan ook moeilijk anders...

Skullbasher_31

Legacy Member
John Cenaaaaaaaaaaaa:love: :love: :p:p

edit: cena is btw een professional wrestler(big fan:)) en momenteel de WWE Champion (linkje)

Bud

Legacy Member
Ik ben ook voor hiphop met toch iets van inhoud en als ik luister naar iets van die leeghoofdige rommel is het alleen voor de beats want aan gezever rimz, bitches en cristal hebbek ni echt nood. Het spijtige is de meeste mensen alleen die hiphop kennen waardoor het genre echt belachelijk gemaakt wordt enzo de betere artiesten ni echt de aandacht hebben die ze verdienen...

Kzou zeker het lijstje van skampy eens bekijken want das echt wel het betere werk.

Joown

Legacy Member
non-phixion, looptroop, gangstarr, 7L & esoteric, a tribe called quest, immortal technique, aim, brainpower, dilated peoples, edan, heltah skeltah, the herbaliser, mobb deep ( mja nu samen met die sucker van fitty cent, maar zeker vroeger albums checken :)), nas, opgezwolle, dj assault, dj godfather(bootydj , but hella fine), J5, necro,...

maar favo toch wel looptroop ,non-phixion en braintje!
zoals braintje zegt: lyricly onuitwisbaar!

Savage

Legacy Member
das toch die kerel van linkin park, alsek me ni vergis? De teksten zijn op zich wel ok, maar de muziek vindek te zwak om deze te ondersteunen. Te eentonig en teveel naar mtv gericht.

Dan liever de 2 lijstjes van hierboven + Cypress Hill (vooral Black Sunday en Temples of Boom)

Ma geef mij toch maar Nederlands-talige hiphop/rap, zoals Osdorp Posse (alhoewel ze sinds kernramp gene vette meer geproduceerd hebben). Kheb hier ook ergens krewcial gelezen, kwist ni da die nog bestonden :)

Bud

Legacy Member
Aesop Rock, Black Star, Talib Kweli, KRS ONE, common, brand nubian, cypress hill, de la soul, deltron3030, deliquent habits, dj cam, dj krush, rjd2, dj shadow, eazy-e, fugees, gza, rza, wu-tang, raekwon, madlib, j dilla, quasimoto, jedi mind tricks, K-OS, La fonky family, Duvel, Opgezwolle, Kubus, Victor Vaughn, Pete Rock, Outkast, Saian Super Crew, The Roots, The Streets, Dizzee Rascal...

hiphop in verschillende talen en stijlen voor ieder wat wils, je moet wel willen natuurlijk ;)

Thorens

Legacy Member
NTM, IAM, Fonky Family, Sniper, DuvelDuvel (Wie is ut? :D), und sovort... Die hoor ik nog wel graag, allemaal :)

Sabe

Legacy Member
fonky family, ntm, nas, immortal technique, inspectah deck, wu - tang, killah priest, linus, looptroop, a tribe called quest, moss def, mobb deep, rjd2, .... en wrsh nog een aantal dak wel vergeet, ...

naar die dingen luister ik nog af en toe, vroeger was ik daar meer in geïnteresseerd.

T-bag

Legacy Member
cypress hill, d12, eminem, dr dre, fort minor,..

Van de echt oudere rap en hiphop weet ik eigenlijk niks.

punk

Legacy Member
The Roots, Nas en Mos Def luister ik naar. En 50 is goed om er wa sfeer in te brengen

PACOMAN

Legacy Member
Madlib,The Beatkonducta, Quasimoto, Jaylib, Lootpack
MF Doom, Jay Dilla ,Slum Village, Talib Kweli , Oh-No , Roc C, MED ,Dudley Perkins , Kankick , Kazi , DITC ....
:) veel Stones Throw artisten, maar vind dit het beste hiphoplabel ever !
http://www.stonesthrow.com/index.html

XoN`-

Legacy Member
bij mijn weten is 50 cent geen hiphop mr r&b

favos:

-necro
-tribe called quest
-dilated peoples
-immortal technique
-dj premier (volgende week id petrol ;) )
-afu ra
-pharoah monch
-dead prez
-methodman & redman

skampy

Legacy Member
Osi` zei:
Vergeet K-Os niet, deze mag ik gerust ook onder "zuivere hip hop" steken zonder al te veel bitch bitch

ha, vorige week de cd gekocht. Is goed! en niet alleen maar hiphop, ook rock, latin, reggae,...
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