Archief - rode lampje naast proccesor

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zaj

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ik wil ff weten Waarom er een rood lampje brand tussen proccesor en men ram. het schijnt dat het mijn voeding is die het niet trekt en dat lampje daarom brand.


tis redelijk oude comp

40 gb hd wd rond de 5000 rpm
voeding : 260 wat no name denk ik

intel 810 mobo

celeron 1,3 ghz

256 sdram 133 mhz

geforce fx5200 pci




vroeger gebruikte ik onboard video maa toen ik die fx liggen had heb ik er em maar ingestoken .
dat lampke heb ik vroeger nooit opgemerkt.
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Davion

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Kijk met CPU-Z welk mobo ge hebt en zoek er dan de productpagina van

www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Vermoedelijk is dat ofwel dat er stroom op staat ofwel dat er stroom op u RAM staat (heb ik op men DFI ook), dus controlleer het eens.
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zaj

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CPU-Z version 1.28.2
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CPUID Output
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Number of CPUs 1
Name Intel Celeron
Code name Tualatin
Specification Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU 1300MHz
Family/Model/Stepping 6B4
Extended Family/Model 0/0
Brand ID 1
Package Socket 370 FC-PGA2
Core Stepping tB1
Technology 0.13µ
Instructions Sets MMX, SSE
Clock Speed 1296.0 MHz
Clock multiplier x13.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 99.7 MHz
Bus Speed 99.7 MHz
Stock frequency 1300 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L2 Latency 1
L2 Speed 1296.0 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 ECC Check enabled
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits

eax ebx ecx edx
Function 00000000 00000002 756e6547 6c65746e 49656e69
Function 00000001 000006b4 00000001 00000000 0383fbff
Function 00000002 03020101 00000000 00000000 0c040882
Function 80000000 80000004 00000000 00000000 00000000
Function 80000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Function 80000002 65746e49 2952286c 6c654320 6e6f7265
Function 80000003 294d5428 55504320 20202020 20202020
Function 80000004 20202020 20202020 30303331 007a484d

edx eax
MSR 0000002A 00000000 CE880000
MSR 00000017 84330000 00000000
MSR 0000011E 00000000 007427E3
MSR 0000008B 00000001 00000000


Chipset
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Northbridge Intel i810E rev. A3
Southbridge Intel 82801BA (ICH2) rev. 5
Memory Type SDRAM
Memory Size 256 MBytes
CAS# 2.0
RAS# to CAS# 2
RAS# Precharge 2
Cycle Time (tRAS) 5
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 7


Memory SPD
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DIMM #1

General
Memory type SDRAM
Manufacturer (ID) Hyundai Electronics (ADFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
Size 256 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC133 (133 MHz)
Part number 71V32635HCT8-H
Serial number 9060B144
Manufacturing date Week 102/Year 20

Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 100 133
CAS# 2.0 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 2 3
RAS# Precharge 2 3
TRAS# 5 6


Monitoring
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PCI Device List
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CPU to PCI Bridge
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x7124
revision 0x0003
sub vendor ID 0x110A (unknown)
sub device ID 0x008A
class code 0x06
sub class code 0x00
bus 0, device 0, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 24 71 06 01 80 20 03 00 00 06 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 11 8A 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 78 5D 0F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 C6 78 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 AA FB 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00


PCI to PCI Bridge
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x244E
revision 0x0005
sub vendor ID 0x0000 (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0000
class code 0x06
sub class code 0x04
bus 0, device 1E, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 4E 24 07 01 80 00 05 00 04 06 00 00 01 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 40 30 30 80 22
20 10 E8 F0 E9 00 F0 F0 F7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0E 00
40 00 28 20 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 10 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 01 00 02 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00


PCI to ISA Bridge
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x2440
revision 0x0005
sub vendor ID 0x0000 (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0000
class code 0x06
sub class code 0x01
bus 0, device 1F, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 40 24 0F 01 80 02 05 00 01 06 00 00 80 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40 01 F0 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 81 F1 00 00 10 00 00 00
60 8A 85 80 89 D0 00 00 00 80 80 80 8B 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 FF FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 FE 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 86 39 00 00 02 0F 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 10 00 00 80 01 08 0F 14 33 22 11 00 00 00 67 45
F0 0F 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 47 0F 00 00 00 02 00 00


IDE Disk controller
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x244B
revision 0x0005
sub vendor ID 0x110A (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0055
class code 0x01
sub class code 0x01
bus 0, device 1F, function 1

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 4B 24 05 00 80 02 05 80 01 01 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 11 55 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40 47 A3 47 A3 00 00 00 00 05 00 01 02 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 F0 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00


USB bus controller
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x2442
revision 0x0005
sub vendor ID 0x110A (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0055
class code 0x0C
sub class code 0x03
bus 0, device 1F, function 2

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 42 24 05 00 80 02 05 00 03 0C 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 11 55 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 04 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 27 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00


SMBus controller
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x2443
revision 0x0005
sub vendor ID 0x110A (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0055
class code 0x0C
sub class code 0x05
bus 0, device 1F, function 3

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 43 24 01 00 80 02 05 00 05 0C 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 11 55 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 02 00 00
40 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00


USB bus controller
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x2444
revision 0x0005
sub vendor ID 0x110A (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0055
class code 0x0C
sub class code 0x03
bus 0, device 1F, function 4

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 44 24 05 00 80 02 05 00 03 0C 00 00 00 00
10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 01 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 11 55 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 17 03 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 27 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00


Audio controller
vendor ID 0x8086 (Intel)
device ID 0x2445
revision 0x0005
sub vendor ID 0x110A (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0056
class code 0x04
sub class code 0x01
bus 0, device 1F, function 5

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 86 80 45 24 05 00 80 02 05 00 01 04 00 00 00 00
10 01 20 00 00 01 1C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 11 56 00
30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 11 02 00 00
40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00


VGA display controller
vendor ID 0x10DE (nVidia)
device ID 0x0322
revision 0x00A1
sub vendor ID 0x0000 (unknown)
sub device ID 0x0000
class code 0x03
sub class code 0x00
bus 1, device 7, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 DE 10 22 03 07 00 B0 02 A1 00 00 03 00 F8 00 00
10 00 00 00 E9 08 00 00 F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 00 00 00 00 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 11 01 05 01
40 00 00 00 00 02 00 30 00 17 02 00 1F 00 00 00 00
50 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 CE D6 23 00 0F 00 00 00
60 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Communication device
vendor ID 0x14F1 ()
device ID 0x2F00
revision 0x0001
sub vendor ID 0x122D (unknown)
sub device ID 0x8D88
class code 0x07
sub class code 0x80
bus 1, device B, function 0

Register configuration
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
00 F1 14 00 2F 07 03 90 02 01 00 80 07 00 40 00 00
10 00 00 10 E8 01 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2D 12 88 8D
30 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 13 01 00 00
40 01 00 22 C0 00 00 00 00 52 12 01 00 01 00 00 00
50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


DMI
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DMI BIOS
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BIOS #1
vendor FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
version 4.06 Rev. 1.02.1370
date 07/16/2002


DMI System Information
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System #1
manufacturer FUJITSU SIEMENS
product D1370
version unknown
serial unknown
UUID 00000000-00000000-0000FFFF-FFFFFFFF


DMI Baseboard
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Baseboard #1
vendor FUJITSU SIEMENS
model D1370
revision S26361-D1370
serial 09818970


DMI System Enclosure
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System enclosure #1
manufacturer FUJITSU SIEMENS
chassis type Mini Tower
chassis serial unknown


DMI Processor
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CPU #1
manufacturer Intel
model Celeron(TM)
clock speed 1300.0MHz
FSB speed 100.0MHz
multiplier 13.0x


DMI Memory Controller
---------------------
Memory Controller #1
correction unknown
Max module size 256MBytes


DMI Memory Module
-----------------
Memory Module #1
designation DIMM-1
size 256MBytes (double bank)
Memory Module #2
designation DIMM-2


DMI Port Connector
------------------
Port #1
designation SMsC (internal)
designation PS/2 Mouse (external)
port type Mouse Port
connector PS/2
Port #2
designation SMsC (internal)
designation Keyboard (external)
port type Keyboard Port
connector PS/2
Port #3
designation SMsC (internal)
designation Parallel (external)
port type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
connector DB-25 female
Port #4
designation SMsC (internal)
designation Serial-1 (external)
port type Serial Port 16550
connector DB-9 male
Port #5
designation SMsC (internal)
designation Game / Midi (external)
port type MIDI Port
connector DB-15 female
Port #6
designation SMsC (internal)
designation Floppy (external)
connector On Board Floppy
Port #7
designation ICH2 (internal)
designation Primary IDE (external)
connector On Board IDE
Port #8
designation ICH2 (internal)
designation Secondary IDE (external)
connector On Board IDE
Port #9
designation ICH2 (internal)
designation USB-1 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
Port #10
designation ICH2 (internal)
designation USB-2 (external)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
Port #11
designation Intel 810E (internal)
designation Video (external)
port type Video Port
connector DB-15 female
Port #12
designation INTEL 82562 (internal)
designation LAN (external)
port type Network Port
connector RJ-45


DMI Extension Slot
------------------
Slot #1
designation PCI-1
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated yes
Slot #2
designation PCI-2
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #3
designation PCI-3
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated yes
Slot #4
designation CNR
type 1
populated yes


DMI Physical Memory Array
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Physical Memory Array #1
location Motherboard
usage System Memory
correction None
max capacity 512MBytes
max# of devices 2


DMI Memory Device
-----------------
Memory Device #1
designation DIMM-1
format DIMM
type DRAM
total width 64bits
data width 64bits
size 256MBytes
speed 100MHz
Memory Device #2
designation DIMM-2
format DIMM
type DRAM
speed 100MHz


Software
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Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional (Build 2600)
DirectX Version 9.0c
z

zaj

Legacy Member
heb al op site van intel gekeken en vind het nie direct, heb ook al gegoogled
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