Archief - [TF2] De Grote TF2 Ergernis-Glimlach thread - deel 2

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Slabbetje

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Mijn tf ergenis van vandaag:

Als ik wil joinen zegt hij: "Need to be connected to Steam beta to make use of servers." :doh:

Seraph

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Yup, lees het ook net op de steam forums.
Hij heeft zijn GW al terug. :)

Seraph

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HAHA
Nee serieus gebanned... :eek:
TF2 backpack examiner zal wss snel offline zijn me thinks. ^^
Precies een aflevering van een of andere soap... cry babies there, raging over here etc...

Heb daarstraks ook ff gaan checken waar die spelers met GW zoal zitten.
Drie keer raden waar; idle servers TROLOL

edit: beide zijn dus idd vac banned
http://steamcommunity.com/id/df
De comments of df zijn steampage moet je ook eens checken. :)

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ChrisFPS
Die uren bij Chris lol 5744u? Pro idle?

FromZero2Hero

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Seraph zei:
HAHA
Heb daarstraks ook ff gaan checken waar die spelers met GW zoal zitten.
Drie keer raden waar; idle servers TROLOL

Hmmm? Hoe weet je dat?

Seraph

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Gewoon de server joinen waar ze momenteel spelen.
Bij het laden zie je welke map het is en dan weet ik al genoeg als er idle_... staat.
Cancel drukken et voila. :)

Timmos

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Zijn site is down, 5 minuten geleden nog niet (tf2items.com, that is). Of nee ze is gewoon mega overbelast.

Hoe kunnen anderen dan drunken f00l het systeem voorspellen? Of ze gebruikten ook een script? :)

WTF wat een golf van verontwaardiging op internet plots :p Haha gotta love the TF2 community :lol:

Het GW-systeem zit vol gaten. Deze jongen heeft een wrench: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197973807184/. 0 uren TF2. Kijk maar na, hij staat in de lijst: http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/wrenchlog/

Man man man hoe is dit allemaal in godsnaam toch mogelijk. Het systeem is echt een zeef, er zitten gaten langs alle kanten.

Seraph

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Quote vanuit de steam thread:

-He used a script for item crafting, and modified it to let him craft at the exact second.
-He had a list of times at which the wrenches dropped, supposedly from a Valve member.
-He is now VAC banned and his wrench was given to another winner.

Blijkbaar wist DF de exacte droptijd tot op de seconde.
Iemand vanuit Valve heeft deze gelekt. :)

Nu ja heel die update gaat de mist in door dit debacle. :sad:

Timmos

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We hebben nu dus:

- De Halocaust
- The Sandman Massacre
- The Gold Rush (op Steam fora zoeken ze nog namen voor dit event :p)

D3C0Y

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ik vind het ook lame van valve dat ze zeggen dat ge bij iedere craft een kans hebt om een GW te krijgen terwijl het eigenlijk niet zo is.

kvond de vergelijking van een kerel in de mega-thread wel goed.

Als ik zeg dat ik snoep uitdeel tussen 5u en 17u aan mijn huis, maar eigenlijk alleen maar snoep uitdeel om 13u dan is dat is mijn eerste statement toch redelijk bullshit

de statement op zich is wel waar, maar als ge op alle verkeerde tijdstippen hebt zitten te craften met de gedachte dat het craft-afhankelijk was (gelijk mij) en niet tijdstip afhankelijk, dan liegt ge toch wel een beetje tegen uw gebruikers ni ?

*edit* btw 2 van die 3 events zijn veroorzaakt door Drunken Fool :p, want de Halocaust is doordat hij logs van alle users van het idleprogramma, aan valve heeft gegeven om zo zijn eigen reet te redden

Seraph

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Een nieuwe map & een community wrench meh niet echt wat ik verwacht had.

Timmos

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D3C0Y zei:
*edit* btw 2 van die 3 events zijn veroorzaakt door Drunken Fool :p, want de Halocaust is doordat hij logs van alle users van het idleprogramma, aan valve heeft gegeven om zo zijn eigen reet te redden
WTF? Nee ze hebben gewoon de items verwijderd van mensen die op een bepaald IP connecteerden, dacht ik? Dat programma gebruikte altijd dezelde IP's, nee?

En ik vind eigenlijk dat het wel random is. Je weet niet wanneer het tijdstip valt dus "je waagt je KANS". Er is kans dat je hem hebt. Hoe meer je craft hoe meer kans je hebt he. Ik vind dat dit echt het zoeken is naar een stok om mee te slaan.

D3C0Y

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nee Drunken Fool heeft alle gebruikers van zijn idle-programma in de zak gezet door hun ID's door te spelen naar valve, om zo zijn eigen hachje te redden.

Kan zijn dat ze daarna zelf nog een link hebben gezocht/gevonden tussen al die ID's, maar Drunken Fool had er zeker een hand in


enja random of niet, kvind dat ze heel sluw met hun woorden zijn omgesprongen in hun blogposts, ma swat ik had toch al geen hoop om 1 te vinden en kheb nu eindelijk een hat kunne craften :p

*edit* day3 is er. Er wordt blijkbaar wel geen woord gerept over de hun GW systeem en die community suprise is zo goed als zeker de polycount pack

Scardy

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23:14… @Drunken_F00l: my statement is:
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: also I'm not that stressed out about it
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: if Valve wants to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ yet again
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: then let them
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: whatever.
23:14… Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: tell us, did you do anything wrong? i mean like more than analyzing the drop times?
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: there was a leak
23:14… @Drunken_F00l: the drop times were leaked
23:15… RabidZombie: I guess by a Valve employee
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: yes
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: valve apparently thinks the leak is my problem
23:15… Nwks: wow, so much for "random chance"
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: yes
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: the random chance is all BS
23:15… @Drunken_F00l: the times were predetermined
23:16… jorgenson: hey DF if you had kept the times to yourself... you prob would not be banned
23:16… @Drunken_F00l: jorgenson: I wasn't the source, I had no control over that
23:16… Dragonshadow: Drunken_F00l: so they haven't said anything to you yet?
23:17… @Drunken_F00l: Dragonshadow: I called Robin. We talked about it.
23:18… Cyborgmatt: @Drunken_F00l: Dragonshadow: I called Robin. We talked about it.
23:18… Cyborgmatt: does that mean you agreed to the ban?
23:18… Cyborgmatt: or was it unexpected
23:18… @Drunken_F00l: I called him after I saw the ban
23:18… @Drunken_F00l: he wanted to talk earlier but I said I couldn't because I was busy at work
23:20… SonicXVe: are you involved in the other two people getting banned?
23:20… @Drunken_F00l: SonicXVe: no
23:21… Subaru: Drunken_F00l, did your api key get removed too, or is the website just being slow
23:21… @Drunken_F00l: Subaru: I don't know anything about that. My guess is it's being slow.
23:23… Kigabit: Drunken F00l, I assume they changed all the predetermined times after they found out they were leaked?
23:23… @Drunken_F00l: Kigabit: Yes, absolutely.
23:23… DSpawn: DF, so was it actually true that you got it by chance, or did you know almost for certain you where going to get it
23:23… @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: I knew for certain when it dropped
23:23… Kigabit: Did you have to craft on the exact second it was supposed to drop?
23:24… @Drunken_F00l: Kigabit: The craft had to reach the crafting server at the exact second. First craft after the time was reached got the wrench.
23:24… ohyes: Did you actually know the exact times, DF?
23:24… @Drunken_F00l: yes
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: all of them
23:25… BatterieS: do you know the next time?
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: the times were changed
23:25… baronbeetle: so the times were down to the second, not minute?
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: baronbeetle: Yes
23:25… cvarley: Drunken_F00l, how many wrenches did you have? Just the one?
23:25… @Drunken_F00l: cvarley: You can only get one.
23:26… ohyes: So, DF, did you tell voidy and thomas?
23:26… @Drunken_F00l: ohyes: I don't know about these people. If they had the times, I don't know how.
23:27… DSpawn: are you the only person who knew the times or could someone else have found them, perhaps using the new/old api? or a different method?
23:27… @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: Others had them.
23:30… unkz: Drunken_F00l: what about tf2items? you shut it down?
23:30… @Drunken_F00l: unkz: no
23:30… EwOkLuVeR69: f00l you should've crafted moer than once around taht time to not make it so obvious
23:31… @Drunken_F00l: EwOkLuVeR69: yes
23:31… Dist: Drunken_F00l if the ban wont be lifted, will you create a new steam account and buy a new copy of tf2?
23:31… @Drunken_F00l: Dist: I already have multiple accounts but I will miss my 6dig
23:31… DSpawn: DF - do you even care you dont have a wrench?
23:31… @Drunken_F00l: DSpawn: no
23:31… FannyPack: here's my question DF and I won't ask another one cause I know you're busy answering other questions. But do you suppose you'd be ousted if the whole forum didn't rage about it?
23:32… @Drunken_F00l: FannyPack: I have no way of knowing. The whole forum raging was inevitable anyways.
23:32… FireSlash: Drunken_F00l, is tf2items down due to load? Or did something happen there too?
23:32… @Drunken_F00l: FireSlash: Heavy load
23:32… Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: you were piling up items for quite some time, did you know about how this event would work earlier?
23:33… @Drunken_F00l: Dark-Dragon: no i was saving metal for new hats
23:33… Totakeke7: Why'd you do it, DF?
23:33… @Drunken_F00l: Totakeke7: I wanted a wrench :3
23:33… netshroud: Drunken_F00l: is the VAC ban related to golden wrench frop, or not?
23:34… @Drunken_F00l: netshroud: The vac ban was because I had a script to craft as fast as possible before they removed the smelt metal blueprint and also because I used leaked times to get a wrench.
23:35… ohyes: lied, obviously.
23:35… @Drunken_F00l: ohyes: Yes, the TF2 team lied to you about how the wrench drop works
23:35… Sturmcock: DF, stop avoiding the question. How were the times leaked?
23:36… @Drunken_F00l: Sturmcock: By a person. Not anything in the binaries
23:36… Silv3r: Did someone from valve contact etc.
23:37… @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: Robin emailed me and gave him his home phone number wanting to explain what was going to happen before it happened. I was too busy at work to call immediately.
23:37… Cyborgmatt: Drunken_F00l, was the drop time leak done on purpose or accidental?
23:37… @Drunken_F00l: Cyborgmatt: Not accidently
23:38… hobomania: Drunken_F00l, did you enjoy the GW whilst it lasted?
23:38… @Drunken_F00l: hobomania: I didn't even use it
23:40… Silv3r: You said you knew times?
23:40… Silv3r: But yesterday you said it was all random...
23:41… @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: I was covering my ♥♥♥. It didn't help.
23:42… RabidZombie: LunarPrince: He didn't use logic. He used insider information then a script.
23:43… @Drunken_F00l: RabidZombie: The script was first actually. It was only for uncrafting/recrafting metal. It's part of the reason for the ban.
23:43… Dark-Dragon: Drunken_F00l: give us robis number, come on you want to do it, dont you?
23:43… @Drunken_F00l: Dark-Dragon: That wouldn't be right
23:51… VoyagerI: They seriously banned you for speedcrafting?
23:51… @Drunken_F00l: VoyagerI: And for knowing the times
23:51… Eddie: Drunken_F00l got VAC-banned, his own fault.
23:51… @Drunken_F00l: Eddie: 100% agree
23:51… Userfz: Drunken_F00l... did the valve offered you to join them?
23:52… @Drunken_F00l: Userfz: No
23:52… ninja: hey fool, have you actually managed to talk to robin yet?
23:52… @Drunken_F00l: ninja: Yes, on the phone and on email
23:52… Silv3r: How speedcraft work anyway? Like what did you uncraft then? :/ Wouldn't you run out of items. Didn't they disable uncrafting metal?
23:52… @Drunken_F00l: Silv3r: I had a script to craft metals before they disabled it.
23:53… Nwks: Drunken_F00l: Is it possible to get the listing of the old times? Or will you post them somewhere? I'm just curious about the "timezone fairness".
23:53… @Drunken_F00l: Nwks: I am contemplating posting them
23:54… O_HAI_THER: Drunken_F00l: You should post the old times. Frankly, they deserve it for being lazy on the wrench dropping system.
23:54… @Drunken_F00l: O_HAI_THER: How about a video of me getting down to one of the times and then somebody in the server getting it.
23:54… @Drunken_F00l: counting down* that is
23:54… MaxOfS2D: Drunken_F00l: does the Valve staff know who's the leaker, and are they gonna fire him?
23:55… @Drunken_F00l: MaxOfS2D: They don't know and I have no intention of telling them who the leak is.
23:55… Destro: So is TF2items being shut down?
23:55… @Drunken_F00l: Destro: No, I answered this before.
23:55… EvilShadow777: Drunken_F00l, are the rumors true that you and Robin were dating at the park yesterday?
23:56… @Drunken_F00l: EvilShadow777: Who told you this
23:56… @Drunken_F00l: the times have changed but 74 was supposed to drop at Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:58:37 GMT
23:58… Destro: So if you knew about the leak f00l then why didnt you warn Robin first?
23:58… @Drunken_F00l: Destro: I should have
23:58… HerpDerp: Just one question Drunken_F00l, all times were predetermined, so were all the people who guessed the times privvy to the leak? or had people actually reverse engineered the prng?
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: HerpDerp: There were some lucky people who guessed the right time once or twice but I have no idea who else had the official times.
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: 75 was supposed to be dropped 01h:56m:57s (7017 seconds) after 74
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: but like i said
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: they changed the times
23:59… qazqazqaz: Drunken_F00l, did you buy this leak?
23:59… @Drunken_F00l: qazqazqaz: No
00:00… Day changed to Thursday, July 8th 2010.
23:59… gngbng: did Drunken_F00l recieve a human-given vac ban
00:00… @Drunken_F00l: gngbng: Yes and not the first
00:00… obiwanek: Drunken_F00l: is there any chance that you can be unbanned?
00:00… @Drunken_F00l: obiwanek: Doubt it. Robin didn't even want to unban if I told him who the leak was.
00:01… VoyagerI: How mad was Robin?
00:01… @Drunken_F00l: VoyagerI: He sounded dissapointed and angry but his tone was calm.
00:02… @Drunken_F00l: I don't know who chrisFPS is or why people are calling him my friend
00:03… exi: Drunken_F00l: What will happen to tf2items.com???
00:03… @Drunken_F00l: exi: I've said a million times tf2items.com is staying up
00:03… Zmathue: Drunken_F00l: how did they found out about the leaked times? did it have anything to do with the thread where you agreed with Ranma's time?
00:03… @Drunken_F00l: Zmathue: Robin checked the audit logs and saw I had crafted 7 times near one of the drop times (even though some of those were after a drop, but whatever)
00:04… @Drunken_F00l: whoever was updating this post
00:04… obiwanek: Drunken_F00l: make a official post somewhere and defend urself
00:04… @Drunken_F00l: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...postcount=1900
00:04… @Drunken_F00l: can you keep updating it
00:06… Beef-: Drunken_F00l: Why do you want ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ items that serve only an aesthetic purpose when you know valve are ♥♥♥♥♥♥s and take items seriously?
00:06… @Drunken_F00l: Beef-: Their shine is intoxicating
00:09… jake^: Drunken_f00l: why couldnt you use your powers for good not evil
00:09… @Drunken_F00l: jake^: Evil would have been selling drop times to premium subscribers.
00:15… ♥♥♥♥: Drunken_F00l: Do you regret ever bothering with the golden wrench?
00:16… @Drunken_F00l: ♥♥♥♥: Yes
00:15… AeshAlan: Drunken_F00l: How much money did you guys make selling the times?
00:16… @Drunken_F00l: AeshAlan: Nobody sold anything
00:16… booo95: Drunken_F00l: Do you expect for your VAC to keep after you and Robin talk about stuff?
00:17… @Drunken_F00l: booo95: We already talked. The vac ban stays.
00:17… Cyborgmatt: Drunken_F00l, what are the chances that other people saw the leaked list
00:18… Drunken_F00l: high
00:18… Thndr: Drunken_F00l, Do you think your submissions to the community, along with the support you will get, will eventually lead to an VAC UnBan?
00:18… @Drunken_F00l: Thndr: No way of knowing. It's possible I guess but unlikely.
00:18… lukas_: Drunken_F00l: Did you give Robin your phone number or did he give you his phone number? Robin is suspiciously chatty with his userbase.
00:19… @Drunken_F00l: lukas_: He gave me his
00:22… BassB: @Drunken_F00l are there any other GW owners who might be facing a ban?
00:22… @Drunken_F00l: BassB: I know of at least 2 or 3 other bans
00:22… Dist: Drunken_F00l if you did not have the list of times, would you have just randomly crafted?
00:23… @Drunken_F00l: Dist: Yes
00:24… obiwanek: Drunken_F00l: are you jarateed off?
00:24… @Drunken_F00l: obiwanek: No. A little dissapointed though.
00:29… @Drunken_F00l: to whoever started the rumor with the false quote of me posti

Statement van DF.. Een bom ontploft op de steamforums :')
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