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bouli
Legacy Member
next season metalopolis en korhal uit de mappool
en deze erbij : http://eu.media5.battle.net/cms/gallery/R5ISU196TZB01339085982546.jpg
3de base heeft rocks qq
en deze erbij : http://eu.media5.battle.net/cms/gallery/R5ISU196TZB01339085982546.jpg
3de base heeft rocks qq
.pnik
Legacy Member
Unit update: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm - Multiplayer Unit Update - YouTube
Eerste battle report voor HOTS (Z & P): StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm - Battle Report (Protoss vs Zerg) - YouTube
Alle info mbt nieuwe units / abilities:
HotS MLG Info Updates
Thoughts?
*Viper lijkt me wel kut; neemt weer wat micro potentieel van P weg...
Entomb spell-dink van de Oracle waardoor mineral patches een soort van defensive shield rond hun krijgen is ook vrij belachelijk, zeker in PvT; T heeft geen static ground defense (buiten PF), dus zou dat dan constant moeten aanvallen met de SCV's...
De range van de tempest is cool, maar de unit op zich is wel van papier gemaakt: trage attack speed / low hp in combinatie met viper-snatching zorgt ervoor dat de unit nogal nutteloos is in PvZ.
Nieuwe Terran units zijn wel goed, voornamelijk die mines en warhound dan
Hooray voor hydra speed upgrade though \o/
*edit: Z ziet er (nog meer
) hopeloos OP uit lol
Eerste battle report voor HOTS (Z & P): StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm - Battle Report (Protoss vs Zerg) - YouTube
Alle info mbt nieuwe units / abilities:
Mothership Core
Showing video of multiplayer update. Changing Mothership to "Mothership Core".
Mothership Core - build mothership core from nexus, has to remain attached to nexus. Can tele to any nexus you have. Purify ability makes it into a powerful photon cannon. Can upgrade it to Mothership later. Can mass recall. This is early game unit.
Tempest
Tempest attacks air and ground.
Tempest - long range expensive range of 10 upgrade to 22. Dustin makes scary face ("not sure about that one yet"). 22 is huge. Seeing how bold they can make the unit before nerfing. Despite what you think of 22 range. They've seen people losing games because they went tempest (its not as strong as you think).
Oracle
Oracle has cloaking ability similar to motherships cloaking ability. Has to stay stationary while casting it it looks like.
Oracle - raid unit. Preordain ability, cast on nme building and get vision. Can cast on friendly building and turn it into a detector.AoE cloaking field taken from mothership. Same ability usage wise.
Widow Mines
Widow mines attack air or ground. Spider mines except they have a timer on them and attach to units (you could probably pull them out of your control group to not get owned)
Widow Mine (temp art is a spider mine). Leaps up and grabs ground or air targets. Timer (10 seconds currently). AoE dmg.
Widow Mines trying to break up death balls. If the unit dies (you kill your own unit). It doesn't do AoE to units around it.
Widow mine is factory unit - no tech lab required (can reactor it). Can move them around the map. Dustin expects that most pros will never get hit by widow mine splash. Experimenting with friendly splash. Still testing - if it's air, the splash only hits air, if its ground only ground. Range of vipers is 9 - turrets are 7.
Viper
"Blinding cloud" on viper. Looks like dark swarm from BW
Video showing baneling/line viper vs marine tank. Viper pulls tanks towards them while banelings run in at marines avoiding splash.
Viper can drain live off a building to regen energy. Your own buildings.
Battle Hellion
Battle Hellion discussion: Late game terran vunerable to charged zealots - this is basic answer. Substantially worse vs banelings. Good as part of a larger army comp late game. Showing Warhound now - 2 weapons: cannon +dmg vs mech and missles - autocast (if you want). Missles autocast vs mech units. Shoots closest mechanical target - to break up the monotony of TvT. Gives factory option against protoss.
Other Changes
Removed bombs from Reaper - added regen out of combat. Attack, retreat, reheal, go attack again.
Ultralisk charge (same as we saw last year). Hydra speed upgrade at hive tech. Has had the biggest impact on gameplay they've seen
Overseer is in. Can throw the changling - they can stick around longer in an army. Easier to hide it in army
Experimenting with creep spreading - not in this build. Mass cloaking is timing and energy based - only lasts certain amount of time.
Carrier is not in current build - they are arguing about it daily internally still. End of Q&A.
Showing video of multiplayer update. Changing Mothership to "Mothership Core".
Mothership Core - build mothership core from nexus, has to remain attached to nexus. Can tele to any nexus you have. Purify ability makes it into a powerful photon cannon. Can upgrade it to Mothership later. Can mass recall. This is early game unit.
Tempest
Tempest attacks air and ground.
Tempest - long range expensive range of 10 upgrade to 22. Dustin makes scary face ("not sure about that one yet"). 22 is huge. Seeing how bold they can make the unit before nerfing. Despite what you think of 22 range. They've seen people losing games because they went tempest (its not as strong as you think).
Oracle
Oracle has cloaking ability similar to motherships cloaking ability. Has to stay stationary while casting it it looks like.
Oracle - raid unit. Preordain ability, cast on nme building and get vision. Can cast on friendly building and turn it into a detector.AoE cloaking field taken from mothership. Same ability usage wise.
Widow Mines
Widow mines attack air or ground. Spider mines except they have a timer on them and attach to units (you could probably pull them out of your control group to not get owned)
Widow Mine (temp art is a spider mine). Leaps up and grabs ground or air targets. Timer (10 seconds currently). AoE dmg.
Widow Mines trying to break up death balls. If the unit dies (you kill your own unit). It doesn't do AoE to units around it.
Widow mine is factory unit - no tech lab required (can reactor it). Can move them around the map. Dustin expects that most pros will never get hit by widow mine splash. Experimenting with friendly splash. Still testing - if it's air, the splash only hits air, if its ground only ground. Range of vipers is 9 - turrets are 7.
Viper
"Blinding cloud" on viper. Looks like dark swarm from BW
Video showing baneling/line viper vs marine tank. Viper pulls tanks towards them while banelings run in at marines avoiding splash.
Viper can drain live off a building to regen energy. Your own buildings.
Battle Hellion
Battle Hellion discussion: Late game terran vunerable to charged zealots - this is basic answer. Substantially worse vs banelings. Good as part of a larger army comp late game. Showing Warhound now - 2 weapons: cannon +dmg vs mech and missles - autocast (if you want). Missles autocast vs mech units. Shoots closest mechanical target - to break up the monotony of TvT. Gives factory option against protoss.
Other Changes
Removed bombs from Reaper - added regen out of combat. Attack, retreat, reheal, go attack again.
Ultralisk charge (same as we saw last year). Hydra speed upgrade at hive tech. Has had the biggest impact on gameplay they've seen
Overseer is in. Can throw the changling - they can stick around longer in an army. Easier to hide it in army
Experimenting with creep spreading - not in this build. Mass cloaking is timing and energy based - only lasts certain amount of time.
Carrier is not in current build - they are arguing about it daily internally still. End of Q&A.
HotS MLG Info Updates
Thoughts?
*Viper lijkt me wel kut; neemt weer wat micro potentieel van P weg...
Entomb spell-dink van de Oracle waardoor mineral patches een soort van defensive shield rond hun krijgen is ook vrij belachelijk, zeker in PvT; T heeft geen static ground defense (buiten PF), dus zou dat dan constant moeten aanvallen met de SCV's...
De range van de tempest is cool, maar de unit op zich is wel van papier gemaakt: trage attack speed / low hp in combinatie met viper-snatching zorgt ervoor dat de unit nogal nutteloos is in PvZ.
Nieuwe Terran units zijn wel goed, voornamelijk die mines en warhound dan
Hooray voor hydra speed upgrade though \o/
*edit: Z ziet er (nog meer
) hopeloos OP uit lol
wireke
Legacy Member
Allez ik zal weer den eerste zijn:
LOL P units.
Arme terrans. Zerg wordt micro-intensiever = good. Die viper zullen ze die range wel nerven. Zoals ze met neural hebben gedaan T-T.
We zullen wel zien, tzal zijn eigen wel uitwerken.
Oracle mag wel aangepast worden dat ge per patch manueel moet "locken". Ineens alles is echt bs.
edit: hoe meer dak er naar zie hoe belachelijker die protoss changes worden. Ja zerg krijgt ook énorme sterke units. Maar P zit er redelijk untouchable uit. Mass recall, mass forcefields door die energy boost, emp doe dus ni veel meer, etc etc
LOL P units.
Arme terrans. Zerg wordt micro-intensiever = good. Die viper zullen ze die range wel nerven. Zoals ze met neural hebben gedaan T-T.
We zullen wel zien, tzal zijn eigen wel uitwerken.
Oracle mag wel aangepast worden dat ge per patch manueel moet "locken". Ineens alles is echt bs.
edit: hoe meer dak er naar zie hoe belachelijker die protoss changes worden. Ja zerg krijgt ook énorme sterke units. Maar P zit er redelijk untouchable uit. Mass recall, mass forcefields door die energy boost, emp doe dus ni veel meer, etc etc
DaTa
Legacy Member
Het archief is een bevroren moment uit een vorige versie van dit forum, met andere regels en andere bazen. Deze posts weerspiegelen op geen enkele manier onze huidige ideeën, waarden of wereldbeelden en zijn op sommige plaatsen gecensureerd wegens ontoelaatbaar. Veel zijn in een andere tijdsgeest gemaakt, al dan niet ironisch - zoals in het ironische subforum Off-Topic - en zouden op dit moment niet meer gepost (mogen) worden. Toch bieden we dit archief nog graag aan als informatiedatabank en naslagwerk. Lees er hier meer over of start een gesprek met anderen.