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(maak anders nieuw topic ff aan en post ondertussen wat handjes)matticca
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PokerStars Game #11221932384: Tournament #56523783, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (3000/6000) - 2007/07/30 - 17:22:05 (ET)
Table '56523783 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Newien (106150 in chips)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (155400 in chips)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (368592 in chips)
Seat 5: Naninck (41729 in chips)
Seat 6: Ferry76 (135460 in chips)
Seat 7: SchwedorY (64367 in chips)
Seat 9: Matticca (81600 in chips)
Newien: posts the ante 300
Brammaretto: posts the ante 300
HardStyle_NL: posts the ante 300
Naninck: posts the ante 300
Ferry76: posts the ante 300
SchwedorY: posts the ante 300
Matticca: posts the ante 300
Brammaretto: posts small blind 3000
HardStyle_NL: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matticca [9h As]
Naninck: folds
Ferry76: folds
SchwedorY: folds
Matticca: calls 6000
Newien: raises 6000 to 12000
Brammaretto: folds
Brammaretto said, "snap ik
"
HardStyle_NL: folds
Matticca: calls 6000
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9d Qc]
Matticca: checks
Newien: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 9d Qc] [8d]
Matticca: bets 30000
Newien: calls 30000
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9d Qc 8d] [5s]
Matticca: bets 39300 and is all-in
Newien: calls 39300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Matticca: shows [9h As] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Newien: shows [Td Th] (a pair of Tens)
Matticca collected 173700 from pot
Brammaretto said, "vnh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 173700 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 9d Qc 8d 5s]
Seat 1: Newien (button) showed [Td Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: Brammaretto (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Naninck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SchwedorY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Matticca showed [9h As] and won (173700) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Stack: largest 306025, smallest 19958, average 125800
Your current position is 4 out of 15
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Table '56523783 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Newien (106150 in chips)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (155400 in chips)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (368592 in chips)
Seat 5: Naninck (41729 in chips)
Seat 6: Ferry76 (135460 in chips)
Seat 7: SchwedorY (64367 in chips)
Seat 9: Matticca (81600 in chips)
Newien: posts the ante 300
Brammaretto: posts the ante 300
HardStyle_NL: posts the ante 300
Naninck: posts the ante 300
Ferry76: posts the ante 300
SchwedorY: posts the ante 300
Matticca: posts the ante 300
Brammaretto: posts small blind 3000
HardStyle_NL: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matticca [9h As]
Naninck: folds
Ferry76: folds
SchwedorY: folds
Matticca: calls 6000
Newien: raises 6000 to 12000
Brammaretto: folds
Brammaretto said, "snap ik
"HardStyle_NL: folds
Matticca: calls 6000
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9d Qc]
Matticca: checks
Newien: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 9d Qc] [8d]
Matticca: bets 30000
Newien: calls 30000
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9d Qc 8d] [5s]
Matticca: bets 39300 and is all-in
Newien: calls 39300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Matticca: shows [9h As] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Newien: shows [Td Th] (a pair of Tens)
Matticca collected 173700 from pot
Brammaretto said, "vnh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 173700 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 9d Qc 8d 5s]
Seat 1: Newien (button) showed [Td Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: Brammaretto (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Naninck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SchwedorY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Matticca showed [9h As] and won (173700) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Stack: largest 306025, smallest 19958, average 125800
Your current position is 4 out of 15
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matticca
Legacy Member
PokerStars Game #11221982590: Tournament #56523783, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (3000/6000) - 2007/07/30 - 17:25:01 (ET)
Table '56523783 19' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Newien (34450 in chips)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (150900 in chips)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (316825 in chips)
Seat 5: Naninck (31229 in chips)
Seat 6: Ferry76 (124960 in chips)
Seat 7: SchwedorY (128434 in chips)
Seat 9: Matticca (166500 in chips)
Newien: posts the ante 300
Brammaretto: posts the ante 300
HardStyle_NL: posts the ante 300
Naninck: posts the ante 300
Ferry76: posts the ante 300
SchwedorY: posts the ante 300
Matticca: posts the ante 300
Matticca: posts small blind 3000
Newien: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matticca [Jh Ah]
Brammaretto: folds
HardStyle_NL: folds
Naninck: folds
Ferry76: folds
SchwedorY: raises 18000 to 24000
Matticca: calls 21000
Newien: calls 18000
*** FLOP *** [Kh Jd 6h]
Matticca: checks
Newien: checks
SchwedorY: bets 30000
Matticca: calls 30000
Newien: folds
*** TURN *** [Kh Jd 6h] [Kc]
Matticca: checks
SchwedorY: bets 74134 and is all-in
Matticca: calls 74134
*** RIVER *** [Kh Jd 6h Kc] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Matticca: shows [Jh Ah] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
SchwedorY: shows [Tc As] (a pair of Kings)
Matticca collected 282368 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 282368 | Rake 0
Board [Kh Jd 6h Kc 5d]
Seat 1: Newien (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Brammaretto folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Naninck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SchwedorY (button) showed [Tc As] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: Matticca (small blind) showed [Jh Ah] and won (282368) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Stack: largest 364504, smallest 43816, average 171545
Your current position is 2 out of 11
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Table '56523783 19' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Newien (34450 in chips)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (150900 in chips)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (316825 in chips)
Seat 5: Naninck (31229 in chips)
Seat 6: Ferry76 (124960 in chips)
Seat 7: SchwedorY (128434 in chips)
Seat 9: Matticca (166500 in chips)
Newien: posts the ante 300
Brammaretto: posts the ante 300
HardStyle_NL: posts the ante 300
Naninck: posts the ante 300
Ferry76: posts the ante 300
SchwedorY: posts the ante 300
Matticca: posts the ante 300
Matticca: posts small blind 3000
Newien: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matticca [Jh Ah]
Brammaretto: folds
HardStyle_NL: folds
Naninck: folds
Ferry76: folds
SchwedorY: raises 18000 to 24000
Matticca: calls 21000
Newien: calls 18000
*** FLOP *** [Kh Jd 6h]
Matticca: checks
Newien: checks
SchwedorY: bets 30000
Matticca: calls 30000
Newien: folds
*** TURN *** [Kh Jd 6h] [Kc]
Matticca: checks
SchwedorY: bets 74134 and is all-in
Matticca: calls 74134
*** RIVER *** [Kh Jd 6h Kc] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Matticca: shows [Jh Ah] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
SchwedorY: shows [Tc As] (a pair of Kings)
Matticca collected 282368 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 282368 | Rake 0
Board [Kh Jd 6h Kc 5d]
Seat 1: Newien (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Brammaretto folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Naninck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SchwedorY (button) showed [Tc As] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: Matticca (small blind) showed [Jh Ah] and won (282368) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Stack: largest 364504, smallest 43816, average 171545
Your current position is 2 out of 11
320k
Cartmaan
Legacy Member
Found it.
Stack: largest 296304, smallest 16816, average 171545
Your current position is 9 out of 11
Stack: $113.848
PokerStars Game #11222123891: Tournament #56523783, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (3000/6000) - 2007/07/30 - 17:33:11 (ET)
Table '56523783 110' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: the Don NL (65902 in chips)
Seat 2: cool1845 (141840 in chips)
Seat 3: chrisbigred (245325 in chips)
Seat 6: HARRYMEERLO (23116 in chips)
Seat 7: Cartie07 (74748 in chips)
Seat 8: tinusw (191614 in chips)
the Don NL: posts the ante 300
cool1845: posts the ante 300
chrisbigred: posts the ante 300
HARRYMEERLO: posts the ante 300
Cartie07: posts the ante 300
tinusw: posts the ante 300
HARRYMEERLO: posts small blind 3000
Cartie07: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cartie07 [Td 9h]
tinusw: folds
the Don NL: folds
cool1845: calls 6000
chrisbigred: calls 6000
HARRYMEERLO: calls 3000
Cartie07: checks
*** FLOP *** [5s Ts 3d]
HARRYMEERLO: checks
Cartie07: checks
cool1845: bets 12000
chrisbigred: calls 12000
HARRYMEERLO: folds
Cartie07: raises 56448 to 68448 and is all-in
cool1845: folds
chrisbigred: folds
Cartie07 collected 61800 from pot
chrisbigred said, "goede bet"
Cartie07: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 61800 | Rake 0
Board [5s Ts 3d]
Seat 1: the Don NL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cool1845 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: chrisbigred (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: HARRYMEERLO (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Cartie07 (big blind) collected (61800)
Seat 8: tinusw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Had schrik dat iemand 10 met hoge kicker zou hebben .. gokje genomen & met succes.
Stack: largest 296304, smallest 16816, average 171545
Your current position is 9 out of 11
Stack: $113.848
PokerStars Game #11222123891: Tournament #56523783, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (3000/6000) - 2007/07/30 - 17:33:11 (ET)
Table '56523783 110' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: the Don NL (65902 in chips)
Seat 2: cool1845 (141840 in chips)
Seat 3: chrisbigred (245325 in chips)
Seat 6: HARRYMEERLO (23116 in chips)
Seat 7: Cartie07 (74748 in chips)
Seat 8: tinusw (191614 in chips)
the Don NL: posts the ante 300
cool1845: posts the ante 300
chrisbigred: posts the ante 300
HARRYMEERLO: posts the ante 300
Cartie07: posts the ante 300
tinusw: posts the ante 300
HARRYMEERLO: posts small blind 3000
Cartie07: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cartie07 [Td 9h]
tinusw: folds
the Don NL: folds
cool1845: calls 6000
chrisbigred: calls 6000
HARRYMEERLO: calls 3000
Cartie07: checks
*** FLOP *** [5s Ts 3d]
HARRYMEERLO: checks
Cartie07: checks
cool1845: bets 12000
chrisbigred: calls 12000
HARRYMEERLO: folds
Cartie07: raises 56448 to 68448 and is all-in
cool1845: folds
chrisbigred: folds
Cartie07 collected 61800 from pot
chrisbigred said, "goede bet"
Cartie07: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 61800 | Rake 0
Board [5s Ts 3d]
Seat 1: the Don NL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cool1845 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: chrisbigred (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: HARRYMEERLO (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Cartie07 (big blind) collected (61800)
Seat 8: tinusw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Had schrik dat iemand 10 met hoge kicker zou hebben .. gokje genomen & met succes.
matticca
Legacy Member
PokerStars Game #11222218659: Tournament #56523783, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (4000/8000) - 2007/07/30 - 17:38:38 (ET)
Table '56523783 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Ferry82 (254857 in chips)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (142200 in chips)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (296904 in chips)
Seat 6: Ferry76 (192960 in chips)
Seat 9: Matticca (257534 in chips)
Ferry82: posts the ante 400
Brammaretto: posts the ante 400
HardStyle_NL: posts the ante 400
Ferry76: posts the ante 400
Matticca: posts the ante 400
Brammaretto: posts small blind 4000
HardStyle_NL: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matticca [Td Kh]
Ferry76: folds
Matticca: raises 16000 to 24000
Ferry82: folds
Brammaretto: folds
HardStyle_NL: calls 16000
*** FLOP *** [9h Tc 3c]
HardStyle_NL: checks
Matticca: bets 48000
HardStyle_NL: raises 72000 to 120000
Matticca: raises 113134 to 233134 and is all-in
HardStyle_NL: calls 113134
*** TURN *** [9h Tc 3c] [Qs]
Brammaretto said, "?"
*** RIVER *** [9h Tc 3c Qs] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HardStyle_NL: shows [9c 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
Matticca: shows [Td Kh] (a straight, Nine to King)
Ferry82 said, "wow"
Matticca collected 520268 from pot
Brammaretto said, "sick !"
Ferry82 said, "riged"
HardStyle_NL said, "ojaaaaaaaaaaaa"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 520268 | Rake 0
Board [9h Tc 3c Qs Jd]
Seat 1: Ferry82 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (big blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 6: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Matticca showed [Td Kh] and won (520268) with a straight, Nine to King
Men eerste suckout op een belangrijk moment. Ik heb er dus nog 4 over
520k stack, chiplead.
Table '56523783 19' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Ferry82 (254857 in chips)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (142200 in chips)
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (296904 in chips)
Seat 6: Ferry76 (192960 in chips)
Seat 9: Matticca (257534 in chips)
Ferry82: posts the ante 400
Brammaretto: posts the ante 400
HardStyle_NL: posts the ante 400
Ferry76: posts the ante 400
Matticca: posts the ante 400
Brammaretto: posts small blind 4000
HardStyle_NL: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Matticca [Td Kh]
Ferry76: folds
Matticca: raises 16000 to 24000
Ferry82: folds
Brammaretto: folds
HardStyle_NL: calls 16000
*** FLOP *** [9h Tc 3c]
HardStyle_NL: checks
Matticca: bets 48000
HardStyle_NL: raises 72000 to 120000
Matticca: raises 113134 to 233134 and is all-in
HardStyle_NL: calls 113134
*** TURN *** [9h Tc 3c] [Qs]
Brammaretto said, "?"
*** RIVER *** [9h Tc 3c Qs] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HardStyle_NL: shows [9c 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
Matticca: shows [Td Kh] (a straight, Nine to King)
Ferry82 said, "wow"
Matticca collected 520268 from pot
Brammaretto said, "sick !"
Ferry82 said, "riged"
HardStyle_NL said, "ojaaaaaaaaaaaa"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 520268 | Rake 0
Board [9h Tc 3c Qs Jd]
Seat 1: Ferry82 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Brammaretto (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: HardStyle_NL (big blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 6: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Matticca showed [Td Kh] and won (520268) with a straight, Nine to King
Men eerste suckout op een belangrijk moment. Ik heb er dus nog 4 over
520k stack, chiplead.
Cartmaan
Legacy Member
PokerStars Game #11222286120: Tournament #56523783, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (4000/8000) - 2007/07/30 - 17:42:34 (ET)
Table '56523783 110' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: the Don NL (162804 in chips)
Seat 2: cool1845 (105138 in chips)
Seat 3: chrisbigred (156625 in chips)
Seat 4: Brammaretto (124600 in chips)
Seat 5: Ferry82 (245257 in chips)
Seat 6: Matticca (519068 in chips)
Seat 7: Cartie07 (89848 in chips)
Seat 8: tinusw (251330 in chips)
Seat 9: Ferry76 (232330 in chips)
the Don NL: posts the ante 400
cool1845: posts the ante 400
chrisbigred: posts the ante 400
Brammaretto: posts the ante 400
Ferry82: posts the ante 400
Matticca: posts the ante 400
Cartie07: posts the ante 400
tinusw: posts the ante 400
Ferry76: posts the ante 400
Ferry82: posts small blind 4000
Matticca: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cartie07 [Ad 9h]
Ferry82 said, "omg euroglot mijn held"
Cartie07: calls 8000
tinusw: calls 8000
Ferry82 said, "weet ik dat"
Ferry76: folds
the Don NL: folds
cool1845: folds
chrisbigred: calls 8000
Brammaretto: folds
Ferry82: folds
Matticca: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 7d Ah]
Matticca: checks
Cartie07: bets 81448 and is all-in
tinusw: calls 81448
chrisbigred: folds
Matticca: folds
*** TURN *** [4d 7d Ah] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [4d 7d Ah 9s] [8d]
Cartie07 said, "lol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Cartie07: shows [Ad 9h] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
tinusw: shows [As 4s] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
Ferry82 said, "EUROGLOT"
Cartie07 collected 202496 from pot
Matticca said, "lol"
Brammaretto said, "omg omg omg"
tinusw said, "omg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 202496 | Rake 0
Board [4d 7d Ah 9s 8d]
Seat 1: the Don NL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cool1845 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: chrisbigred folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Brammaretto (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ferry82 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Matticca (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Cartie07 showed [Ad 9h] and won (202496) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 8: tinusw showed [As 4s] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 9: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
omg
Stack: largest 506268, smallest 104338, average 209666
Your current position is 4 out of 9
Table '56523783 110' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: the Don NL (162804 in chips)
Seat 2: cool1845 (105138 in chips)
Seat 3: chrisbigred (156625 in chips)
Seat 4: Brammaretto (124600 in chips)
Seat 5: Ferry82 (245257 in chips)
Seat 6: Matticca (519068 in chips)
Seat 7: Cartie07 (89848 in chips)
Seat 8: tinusw (251330 in chips)
Seat 9: Ferry76 (232330 in chips)
the Don NL: posts the ante 400
cool1845: posts the ante 400
chrisbigred: posts the ante 400
Brammaretto: posts the ante 400
Ferry82: posts the ante 400
Matticca: posts the ante 400
Cartie07: posts the ante 400
tinusw: posts the ante 400
Ferry76: posts the ante 400
Ferry82: posts small blind 4000
Matticca: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cartie07 [Ad 9h]
Ferry82 said, "omg euroglot mijn held"
Cartie07: calls 8000
tinusw: calls 8000
Ferry82 said, "weet ik dat"
Ferry76: folds
the Don NL: folds
cool1845: folds
chrisbigred: calls 8000
Brammaretto: folds
Ferry82: folds
Matticca: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 7d Ah]
Matticca: checks
Cartie07: bets 81448 and is all-in
tinusw: calls 81448
chrisbigred: folds
Matticca: folds
*** TURN *** [4d 7d Ah] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [4d 7d Ah 9s] [8d]
Cartie07 said, "lol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Cartie07: shows [Ad 9h] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
tinusw: shows [As 4s] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
Ferry82 said, "EUROGLOT"
Cartie07 collected 202496 from pot
Matticca said, "lol"
Brammaretto said, "omg omg omg"
tinusw said, "omg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 202496 | Rake 0
Board [4d 7d Ah 9s 8d]
Seat 1: the Don NL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cool1845 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: chrisbigred folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Brammaretto (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ferry82 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Matticca (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Cartie07 showed [Ad 9h] and won (202496) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 8: tinusw showed [As 4s] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 9: Ferry76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
omg
Stack: largest 506268, smallest 104338, average 209666
Your current position is 4 out of 9
Het archief is een bevroren moment uit een vorige versie van dit forum, met andere regels en andere bazen. Deze posts weerspiegelen op geen enkele manier onze huidige ideeën, waarden of wereldbeelden en zijn op sommige plaatsen gecensureerd wegens ontoelaatbaar. Veel zijn in een andere tijdsgeest gemaakt, al dan niet ironisch - zoals in het ironische subforum Off-Topic - en zouden op dit moment niet meer gepost (mogen) worden. Toch bieden we dit archief nog graag aan als informatiedatabank en naslagwerk. Lees er hier meer over of start een gesprek met anderen.