Archief - Laptop hapert bij het afspelen van AVI bestanden

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Frederik.89

Legacy Member
Goedendag,

Ik heb volgend probleem.
Als ik bestanden afspeel dan hapert soms het geluid ofwel hapert het beeld van het fragment.
Wat is hiervan de oorzaak?

Alvast bedankt

dimio111

Legacy Member
was dit altijd al zo? of is hij dit nog maar onlangs beginnen doen?
probeer eens de chipset drivers en graffische drivers van je laptop te updaten.

Frederik.89

Legacy Member
Bij elk bestandsformaat hapert ie, ook bij het afspelen van mp3 files.
Vroeger deed ie het (dacht ik niet), maar nu doet ie het meer en meer..
(Laptop is nog geen jaar oud)

Exit

Legacy Member
hdtune - errorscan eens doen
post eens hijackthis logje

open taakbeheer eens en check of cpu gebruikt omhoog gaat op de momenten dat ie hapert.

Sjoepap

Legacy Member
idd probeer eens VLC mediaplayer

en schakel onnodige processen uit

Frederik.89

Legacy Member
hijackthis
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 19:06:52, on 22/10/2009
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6001.18319)
Boot mode: Normal

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C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
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C:\Program Files\Toshiba\Power Saver\TPwrMain.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\SmoothView\SmoothView.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\FlashCards\TCrdMain.exe
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\MOM.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\Registration\ToshibaRegistration.exe
C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG8\avgtray.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Siemens\S7UBTOOX\S7ubTstx.exe
C:\Windows\WindowsMobile\wmdSync.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\GrooveMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 9.0\Acrobat\acrotray.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\sidebar.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\TOSCDSPD\TOSCDSPD.exe
C:\Windows\ehome\ehtray.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe
C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\daemon.exe
C:\Program Files\Camera Assistant Software for Toshiba\CEC_MAIN.exe
C:\Program Files\MP4 Player\Mp4Player.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpnscfg.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\Bluetooth Toshiba Stack\TosBtMng.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\HDMICtrlMan\HCMSoundChanger.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee Security Scan\1.0.150\SSScheduler.exe
C:\Windows\ehome\ehmsas.exe
C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CCC.exe
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C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe

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HDTunePro errorscan is nog bezig

Frederik.89

Legacy Member
Ik speel al mijn AVI bestanden af met VLC, en de audiobestanden met windows media player.

Mvg

Dastardly

Legacy Member
windows media player durft te haperen op de beste systemen, probeer itunes of winamp eens en zie of dat verschil geeft.

winamp - audio
GOM player - video

2 programmas die ik gebruik om alles af te spelen, beide gebruiken weinig resources.
Het archief is een bevroren moment uit een vorige versie van dit forum, met andere regels en andere bazen. Deze posts weerspiegelen op geen enkele manier onze huidige ideeën, waarden of wereldbeelden en zijn op sommige plaatsen gecensureerd wegens ontoelaatbaar. Veel zijn in een andere tijdsgeest gemaakt, al dan niet ironisch - zoals in het ironische subforum Off-Topic - en zouden op dit moment niet meer gepost (mogen) worden. Toch bieden we dit archief nog graag aan als informatiedatabank en naslagwerk. Lees er hier meer over of start een gesprek met anderen.
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