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WoW PvP 101
The Basics – Attitude

For those just starting on a PvP Server


=Modified of EQPvP 101 Originally Created by Myndpyre Ryche=


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Foreword by Zware

I played EQ1 PvP for about 4 years and these were the ground rules of my play style. When I started in WoW I found out that most people didn’t knew the basic rules of PvP. So I took my Bible of PvP (the Original EQPvP 101 and 102) and modified it ,with complete respect for the original, to fit into WoW.
I hope lots of players will read this and follow these as a Foundation of PvP in WoW.


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Lesson 1: I came here to kill people

Repeat after me, “I came here to kill people”

Welcome to World of Warcraft with “option” for PvP, but your grave and the coffin of every player on the PvP servers was nailed shut when you logged into these servers. If you are not here to kill or be killed, take your friendly ass to the Bluebie PvE servers.

This is Player vs Player, plan on dying, plan on having to defend yourself, plan on having every goal you have set for yourself in the game outside of PvP delayed. Plan on being stabbed by those you consider friends, plan on getting upset, plan on accomplishing nothing for days on end.

You did not come here to kill dragons, you did not come here to kill Heroes, you did not come here to have the phatest lewt in the game, you came here to kill people. The sooner you get it through your weak Bluebie PvE-head that you are a killer, and REALIZE that this is what you wanted to be, the faster you will start gaining the mentality that will keep you alive and the less you will see that nice friendly Angel in the Graveyard.
If the dragons fall and the heroes are defeated, those are added bonuses, but you did not come to this server to do that, you are a killer or you are a victim, your choice.


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Lesson 2: You just got knocked the @#%$ out, what now?

Aweee, did Mister Meanie Orcie come gank you and take your spawn? Would you like a tissue? Oh you think that if you spam him for the next hour calling him every hostile word in your petty little head that you are going to upset him? Bluebie Please.

Why did he kill you? Why did he have to come into your dungeon on your only day off this month and gank you just before the spawn with the killer robe you wanted was about to drop?

Your answer is simple, yet so hard for many to understand, “Because he can”He came to this server to kill people, if you still haven’t grasped lesson 1, please review it now. If you are reading this for the third time, and still haven’t grasped lesson 1, please delete your sorry ass and get the hell off of the PvP-servers.

Now you are sitting naked at the Graveyard looking stupid, the newbies are looking at you wondering what just kicked your ass. What are you going to do? You are going to run to your corpse, you are going to keep your mouth shut, you are going to resurrect at your corpse, and you are going to leave. Why are you going to do this? Because Mister Meanie Orcie kicked your ass, and Mister Meanie Inkie is standing on your corpse that has everything you own on it.
Because Mister Meanie Ocrie was smart enough to attack you when you were not ready, he has earned the right to stay there at HIS spawn that your ass has forfeited to him by combat at arms. Don’t like this concept? Too bad, welcome to PvP. Get your shit, get out, stay out for a while. Show some respect to the player who just ganked you. There is gonna be a time when he is on the ground bleeding to death because of your actions, and he will be humbled back.

What now? There are more places and spawns in this game then you can ever see, time to find something else to do. Give you a clue, how about going to the enemies home city and learning how to fight.


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Lesson 3: You are at the bottom of the food chain


Welcome to PvP, Mister Worm. You will eat dirt and like it. You should be happy we allow you to have OUR dirt, the only reason you do is because we have stopped caring about it, and players like you. You do not own this server, you do not have the right to hunt anywhere without our permission. You may ask, who is “Our”? “Our” is the first generation players of the PvP servers who run this place. Think of this as a jail cell, and we run the block. Get out of order and get a beating. Want to play hardball with us, then you best get strong, get some heavy levels, get a lot of friends, and get owned anyway. Such is life on the PvP. You earn the right to eat better then dirt or the right to breathe by doing one of two things.

First, is you ask our permission, and if we are in a humorous mood, we may allow you. Second is to do it with attitude and balls, and when we ask you why you are on our turf, your response should be “Do something about it”, for more about “Do something about it” see lesson 6.Again,

You EARN the right to breathe, and eat something else besides dirt. You EARN this right by being tougher then the people who are telling you that you don’t have this right. You EARN your respect, and your reputation. You EARN the right to stop being a worm, and start being a rat.If you want to be a rat without earning the right to be one, you will be ganked over and over again. If you forgot what to do when we gank you, please
review lesson 2 a second time. When you actually move up from Worm to Rat, you own the worms. Just be careful, because some worms have cats as friends who like to eat Rats who get too big for their ability to produce death.


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Lesson 4: Just kill him

Ok, some munchie elfie just ganked your gnoll scout that you thought you owned, that gnoll also had a rusty two handed sword that you really could of used. If you seriously thought that was your gnoll, please go back and review lesson 3. That was not your gnoll, that was OUR gnoll, how quickly you forget.

So now you are upset, because this elfie interrupted your ability to level. First, I thought I told you that you were not allowed to breathe without asking for permission, but I guess you have started to get some balls and do it anyway, good! You are learning.

So now this elfie just laughed at you and your inability to finish what you have started. Feel the blood flowing yet? Getting mad? Feel yourself hitting the keys while you are typing just a bit harder then before? Oh you are starting to feel the pull to this server. You are the little kid on the playground and some bully just took your ball. Now the elfie walks over to 2 other elfies who are also higher level then you, and nightmares of your childhood come to mind. The elfie gives that sword to his friend, and he shows it off to you, taunting you to do something about it.

Four choices you have in front of you, and this is your moment of truth.

First, you realize you are going to get your ass kicked, you turn around and look for another one of our gnolls to kill. If this was your decision, start the lesson over, because that same elf just did the same thing to you.

Second, you get stupid and call the “Police” to come intervene. Lets say for kicks and giggles that a cop (Guide or GM) shows up, they are going to sit down and explain to you that this is a pvp server, and they can do that. This makes matters worse and now the elves are laughing hysterically at you.

Third, you shout to the zone for help, and all of a sudden the entire zone is laughing at you. Please delete your character and go lie down next to your dog in the corner. When the dog goes to eat out of his bowl, kick him really hard and remind him that its your food. After doing this for an hour, start a new character and come back into the game. Also, go back to lesson one and start over WoWPvP 101, you just failed.

Fourth and correct answer, just kill him. Walk up to him and his friends, and kick all 3 of their asses. You do not talk smack, you do not try to come up with some witty line out of a Rambo movie, you simply walk up and attack the elf that took your kill. You do not stop until he is dead or you are dead. You do not beat him down to almost no life then taunt him, you kill him. If he runs to all the way from Barrens to Ashenvale, you follow his ass to Ashenvale and finish it.

You do not run, you do not flee, you do not ask for help, you do not ask him what his mother was doing with the ogre last night, you just kill him or die trying.

If you do actually kill him, the next person that goes down is the one with the rusty 2 handed sword. Why? Because he was the one who received it. You keep attacking him until he is dead or you are dead. Rules are a bit different now. If this one flees, chase him off the play ground, then go after the third.

Why the third? Because he was there. Beat his ass into the ground and kill him too. If he flees the playground, the playground is yours and you made your point.

Now that is best case scenario, now lets deal with worst case scenario. You attack them, and they OWN you. You get rooted, you get nuke bombed, and they embarrass you. At this point, please return to lesson two and follow instructions on what to do to get your corpse back.At minimal, you showed them that you are not one to be fucked with, and next time they will chose to pick on someone who they can bully and not have to spend the time in battle with.


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Lesson 5: School of Hard Knocks and RESPECT

Oh, you are one of those players who like to tell everyone that you can hunt where you want to hunt because you pay your 13 bucks a month to be here?
Heh, great, we love players like you. See, we pay our 13 bucks a month to do what we want to do, shove cold hard reality in your face and make you scream in agony.
Oh please tell us you are the type who like to tell us they are going to call the “Police” too, we love that.I can play angel with the best of them, and when they show, my halo will be polished to a clean shine, and will GLOW for them. You will be so upset that you are using harsh language and screaming at the “police” person to do what you think his job is because you pay his salary. You own everything, and the Guide leaves laughing at you, because you forgot where you were.

See we know that the “Police” are king, and we treat them with respect at all times. You are a piece of shit who thinks they own everything, we win.
Oh, now that the “police” are not going to help you still think you got a chance? Oh you someone big in real life and are now gonna sue me? Oh, you are my BEST friend, and we are gonna be best friends for a long time. I am going to follow you everywhere you go, I am going to kick your helm in, I am bloody my sword on you or burn you to a crisp. I hope you walk into water so I can root you and watch you drown. I get a kick of casting blindness on you and watching you run off a cliff. I am going to kill you so much that your
hard drive is going to crash from so many LOADING PLEASE WAIT sessions.
See on this server, you have one right, you have the right to get your body. I am going to ask you to get your body and leave MY zone. You say no and refuse to leave, I have the certified stamp of approval to put steel to bone on you a second time. If you leave the zone, and I catch you in another zone, you are free game.

Here is what you forgot. You don’t run this server, its OUR server. Forgot who OUR is, review lesson one.
Second, you forgot keep your mouth shut when you get your ass handed to you, as learned in lesson 2.
Third, you forgot that you are a worm, and picked a fight with someone higher up on the food chain then you, please review lesson 3.
Fourth, you didn’t kick your dog hard enough, review lesson 4.
Fifth, you are here to learn the hard way, some people need that though, I guess that is you.

Lets start with respect. First you need to learn the order of respect.
Highest respect is to the “Police”, because you piss them off enough you will no longer have an account, and you end up buying a second account and starting on the bottom of the food chain again. They are the ultimate authority regardless if you are a dragon who can kill any other 10 players at one time. If one shows up, its “Yes m’lord” or “Yes m’lady” and whatever they state is law, is law. Hear what they have got to say, don’t argue, and leave.

Second, is to you. Easiest way to respect yourself is to learn who you are and where you are allowed and not allowed to be.

Third, is to the powers of the server. Learn who runs which area, and either make friends with them, or don’t cross them.

Forth is anyone who can take you out. Either they are stronger characters or play the game better, either way they can make your life hell if you piss them off enough.

Fifth and final, is everyone below you on the food chain. Respect them because even the smallest worms can grow up to be the largest dragons. They will
REMEMBER you if you made their life hell for reasons not out of respect, and repay it a hundred times over. Don’t mistake respect with being soft, treat them rough, but be respectful.No respect is given to those that show dishonor and lack of respect. Gank these morons mercilessly and earn more respect from those who have honor and show
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Lesson 6: Do something about it

Don’t take shit from anyone on a PvP server, play it tough, but play it right. Someone says shit to you, hit them so hard that they see stars. If they do anything but stand there and bleed hit them again. If they open their mouth again hit them again. If they attack back, even a single punch, finish the fight and put them on the ground. If they didn’t attack you and backed off, cool down and leave them, you proved your point.

Don’t talk smack, let your actions tell the story. Anyone can come on the server and talk big smack, it’s the walk and actions that will make your reputation.

Doing something about it doesn’t mean Graveyard rushing and corpse camping someone. This will be covered more in WoWPvP 102, dealing with Honor and Reputation. Doing something about it is about attitude.

As long as you maintain honor, do what you want to do. If anyone has a problem with it, tell them they can do something about it. Someone doesn’t do something you like, do something about it. The worst thing you can do is to never do anything. Sitting there with your thumb up your ass is the best way to get ganked and earn the reputation of “a lamer”


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Lesson 7: Everyone takes a beating now and then

So you were walking around talking big smack and a group of 4 trolls introduced you what pointy horns are really used for. You were picking on some inkie who you thought was a Priest, and it turned out he was a Warrior who Ganked you so hard that when you woke up, you had 3 different patches to update. So you were laughing at a Hunter 15 levels below you when he stepped up and put you on the ground. Ok scratch the last one, it is too far fetched, but you get the idea.

Realizing that you are mortal and can be killed is one of the most important aspects of PvP combat. You are not a god, you can be killed. You will not win every fight you engage.The biggest thing to taking a beating is to LEARN from what happened. Why did you die? What mistakes did you make? How could you of won that fight? Where was your partner when you were getting turned into a Popsicle by the troll with the staff?
Don’t think that everything in this game is luck, there is a lot of skills involved in PvP combat. Learning to make the same mistake ONCE and not again, will keep you on the up and up and killing more.
Speaking of learning, your dog by now should know not to go to his food bowl while you are lying on the ground trying to figure out the name of your next character. If he can learn, so can you.


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Lesson 8: Watch your back

Final lesson of WoWPvP 101, is to always watch your back. If you are in a dungeon, your back is against the wall, and you are watching your screen in all directions to make sure no one is coming up on you.

If you are in an outdoor zone, you are on a zone wall, if you have to be in the middle of the zone, you are in third person view watching all directions.

Smart pvp’ers are constantly updating the /who list to know WHO is in the zone. Those who have been around for a long time know most of the enemies by name, approx level, definite class, and definite race. Also the reputation of the player as a good pk or a bad pk, honor level, and the guild they represent.

This knowledge takes time, but its something to get used to as soon as you enter the zone.

Original Creator of the EQ-PvP 101 Rule-set
Myndpyre Ryche
The Warlock of Discord
The Aggressors, Tallon Zek

Modifier of the WoW-PvP 101 Rule-set
Zware
Tauren Warrior of LoD
Bloodfeather

WoW-PvP 102 - Honor and Reputation
For newer players to the PvP server, and those that really need a reality check


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Lesson 1: Honor

Honor is not just keeping your word and your promises, it goes much deeper on PvP Servers. There are just some actions you do not do. In this session you will learn how to maintain your honor and reputation. Your honor effects your reputation on the server, which is more important then any item or level. Once you have reached the lowest form of reputation, dubbed “Lamer”, your days on the server
are numbered.


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Lesson 2: Graveyard Rushing

We can sum this up to the title of “poor loser”, so you got ganked in an honorable fight but you are lucky and your graveyard spawn is pretty close. You run towards your corpse, resurrect and nuke the guy who beat you without even leaving the zone although you are low of health and mana.and took a major faction hit.

Your faction with honorable players now sucks.
Your faction with lamers has gotten better.

In WoWPvP101, Lesson 2 you learned how to handle getting ganked, if you forgot please review. You do not attack someone who has just been resurrected at his corpse. This is one of the lowest forms of worms on the server, and you need to correct these actions before you end up as hated as hell levels or the changes to Priests. Let the killed/resurrected player have some time to move away and get used to the idea that you ganked him and you conquered his spot and his sorry ass. He doesn’t leave? He attacks you? Gank him again, like you did with your dog in Lesson 4 of WoWPvP 101.


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Lesson 3: Corpse Camping

We can sum this up to the title of “poor winner”, so you ganked someone in an honorable fight, but made the mistake of being an Tinench_Johnson and are going to distribute further grief onto another player of your server. Players like you really belong on the blue servers where they are no longer a threat to society or themselves. If this is your idea of fun, you probably kicked the dog in lesson 4 of session 1 many times just for the enjoyment of it, not to learn the reason behind it.

You allow players to get their corpses at all times. There is no exception to this rule. For more about corpse camping and Graveyard rushing, review Loot and Scoot below.

Ganking people at their corpse over and over, especially when they have every intention of looting and scooting is just wrong. To make it worse please add a few shouts of "Whose your Daddy" or "Suck it Byaotch!" to give yourself the complete title of jack ass.

Remember, what comes around goes around, especially on PvP. Lamers names get around to the honorable guilds fast, and your reputation will follow you around like white on rice.


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Lesson 4: XP Killing and Choo Choo Train!

We can sum this up to the title of “Major Tinench_Johnson” and “Lamer Extreme”, these are the lowest form of life on the server, regardless of where they are on the food chain. An XP Killer usually is banished from his own team and KOS to everyone else.

If you believe that you have the right to cause another player multiple hours of hard work and dedication to their level and game, please delete your character and go to CounterStrike. If another player has committed this kind of crime against you or someone you know, kill him and ignore lesson 3. Even those with the highest honor will take justice into their own hands and put the hurt down on someone who breaks this rule.

Training to kill massive amounts of players with xp loss will never be forgotten and your faction is now scowls to most of the server. Players like these are the ones I can see hitting seals on the heads with hammers.

I will stay away from discussion about "is Fighting Fire with Fire when it comes to XP killing ok or not?"

I think that this is a personal decision for each and everyone to make I personally will not XP kill anyone for any reason, even if it was done to me first, but believe me, I can understand those that retaliate. I will reserve right to judge or not to judge anyone's actions after someone just cost them 20 hours of boring powerleveling because they were upset they were killed in a legit fight. That's the nice thing about this server, we can all judge one another as we please, and take actions that we feel needed upon each other.


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Lesson 5: Blah Blah ohfkin' Blah

So you got ganked in a legit fight, and now you feel you have the right to tell the person who killed ya your entire life story.

But I was low on mana! But I was low on health! Why did you kill me! Why did you attack me while I was sitting down and medding! But I was AFK! But I was talking! Jesus F’n Christ, the Graveyard is far away. Tinench_Johnson and I gotta go to church in 15 minutes to lead a goddamn faith session!

Now if you were XP killed, Corpse Camped, or Bind Point rushed, I can see a bit of this. But for a legitimate fight, you are way out of line.

Doing this every kill is a great way to get to “Lamer” status in a hurry. Best review Session 1 Lesson 2 again.

The opposite of "loser's story" is called "Smack"


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Lesson 6: Loot and Scoot

Loot and Scoot is a deal. The deal is I let you have your corpse, you leave the zone. Don't want to leave the zone, ok you get to taste my steel again.

I will only go over this briefly because Session 1 Lesson 2 you learned how to keep your mouth shut and get your corpse.

The argument always heard is “How long do I stay out of the zone?”

My answer usually is “how bad did you get your ass kicked?”

Normally I stay out of a zone for at least an hour, to the victors belong the spoils.

Try to get out of the habit of going after the same camp over and over, because it will piss off those who already handed you your head on the three previous attempts.


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Lesson 6.1: How to handle those who do not loot and scoot

Step by Step Instructions on how to handle players who daunt loot and scoot. I will try to keep them very simple so everyone can understand.

Pre-Req : Player must of already refused loot and scoot at least one time.

1. He shows up to get his corpse, ressurect. Remember Session 1, you always let people get their corpses.

2d. (For DoTters) As soon as he stands up, you hit him with your largest DoT (Hopefully Fatal) and tell him he has about a minute to live so he best leave the zone while he still breathes.

2w (For Warriors) He is free game to be attacked again, but for shits and giggles, only use your Rend attack until a point he starts to fight back, or leaves

2p (For Pet Classes) Sick your pet on him, and enjoy the show! Countless hours of watching Beefcake chase down an Orcie while he tries to shout to the zone things about your mother really takes the edge off your bad day at work.

2e (For Druids) Keep him Rooted for 45 minutes to an hour then give him another chance to leave.

3. Fuggit, he has had enough time, just kill him and go to step 1 again. Rinse, Repeat.

Remember how I said that you wouldn't get anything productive done, and fall behind on all of your goals? Well, this is one of those reasons why, but hey, at least you may enjoy this.


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Lesson 7: Random PK’ing and Hunting Sessions

Despite popular belief, those that do nothing but run around and kill peeps are NOT assholes. I know that this is hard to swallow, when you are sitting face down in the muck after someone kicked you ass after you finished off a mob, and were low life and low health, and were drinking a beer, and were talking to your old lady, and your cat stepped on the keyboard, and, and, and, and STFU!

You got beat! Waiting until you are low on mana and life is a tactic Waiting until you are not ready is a skill What you think this is, Galahad and the F'n Holy Grail? I gotta walk up to you with my glove and smack you across the face? Wait for you to accept? Pistols at 10 paces you son of a warthog!

Where the hell do you think you are? This is a PvP server, and I can hunt all day long and into the next day if I want because I came here to kill people Not my fault you came here because the population of this server was low . The reason our population is low is because players like me hunt players like you as if they were weeds, pulling them one from one from the server to keep our garden fresh and not stinking of the
bluebie expletive deleted.

This is blue server he-cow poopoo mentality creeping up on our beloved PvP-Servers. If you want duels, go back to a blue server I did ask you "Did you come here to duel people" in lesson 1?

No I most certainly did not!

I asked you "Did you come here to kill people" in lesson 1. Please review you @(*%_@#%*_@#%

Ok, I can settle down now, breathe Mynd breathe, ok.

Back to Topic, here we go, kill the bluebies later.

I have found this amazing phenomenon, which is so incredible I thought I would share it with everyone.

Those that practice PvP actually are better at it then those who haven't practiced.

NO WAY! Mynd, ya kiddin me man! You mean just because I stayed in High Keep until I was 44, then went to Karnors until I was 60 is the reason I cant beat most 52s? I thought level and equipment was everything!

Those that live the life of a player killer, and practice player killing, more often then not, are those that are walking away from the fight with the guys wallet in his hand, not the one sitting in the graveyard wondering if he should just go back to PVE.

Original Creator of the EQ-PvP 102 Rule-set
Myndpyre Ryche
The Warlock of Discord
The Aggressors, Tallon Zek

Modifier of the WoW-PvP 102 Rule-set
Zware
Tauren Warrior of LoD
Bloodfeather

btw ik ben Zware
Kgebruik deze regels al jaren als basis in PvP maar in WoW hebben er weinig respect voor elkaar. Daarom probeer ik nu een eerste stap te zetten in het creeren in de mentaliteit die je had op EQ1 PvP servers.
Als je het verder zou posten (wat ik graag zou hebben) op andere boards gelieve dan alles te posten en ook de verwijzingen naar de originele maken en het voorwoord aub.

Als er nog dingen zijn die je denkt dat verkeerd zijn, gelieve ze te melden en ik verander ze wel.

Greetz

Zware aka Malkavian

mooie lange post, hopelijk gaat de info die er instaat nuttig zijn. Zo meteen eens op mijn gemak nalezen.
btw Malkavian hebt ge ook een quellar d'oloth guild in wow? Zoja op welke server?

Nee Qu'Ellar d'Oloth bestaat niet op WoW, en waarschijnlijk nooit komen.
Te veel werk en tijd nodig om Guild te draaien zoals ik wil en laten we nu juist nie echt veel tijd hebben.
Quellar is mijn Orc Hunter, Doloth zen pet

Ik zit in LoD, www.wow-lod.be
Nederlandstalige guild, maw BE/NL

En wees maar gerust het is de moeite waard om dit te lezen.
Als er vragen zijn just ask, WoW ken ik nog niet zo goed maar PvP zit al jaren in mijn bloed.

Best wel grappige tekst, maar toch ook nuttig. Lesson 6 in 2de deel vond ik wel interresant. Maar ik vrees dat veel mensen de moeite niet gaan doen om dit gans na te lezen uit pure luiheid en dan juist diegenen die het best wel eens zouden lezen.

true true, maar als ze niet weten dat het bestaat kunnen ze het ook niet lezen. Ik vrees er ook voor dat het in WoW en andere MMO's met hun populariteit ook onbegonnen werk is, maarja. Als zijn eht er maar een paar , they'll be remembered the good way

Mooie post het pvp doel mooi samengevat.
Was ook nuttig om te lezen.

imo staat er niveel nuttig in dien tekst , buite wa gescheld op mensen...
en idd WoW is EQ niet , wow is de eerste mmorpg die een gigantisch succes heeft , vooral onder mensen die dit type nog niet gespeeld heeft

wel grappig , van bleubie pve servers
alsof wij geen pvp doen , alsof het hier niet kan gebeure dat iemand u corpsecamp...

let them always get back top their corpse??!! euh tja ne ghost kunde nogal moeilijk tegenhouden , buite het feit da ge in een bepaalde straal rondom uw corpse kunt rezze..
der zit nog teveel van eq in imo da ni in wow mogelijk is , nee ne gnoll as char gaat ni

Gnoll is een vijand, geen speler, een Mob dus.
WoW is niet de eerste MMO dat gigantisch succes heeft

en yeah da van da corpse da zen nog foutjes die ik eruit moet halen.

En zover ik weet is er geen PvP op nen PvE server, buiten Battlegrounds en daar gelden andere regels. Dus kan niet zien dat iemand ou corpse campt in bvb de Barrens op een PvE server.

Dit is vooral bedoeld om de mentaliteit te veranderen, niet om je te veranderen in de beste PvPer, maar wel in een eervolle PvPer

Malkavian zei:

Gnoll is een vijand, geen speler, een Mob dus.
WoW is niet de eerste MMO dat gigantisch succes heeft

En zover ik weet is er geen PvP op nen PvE server, buiten Battlegrounds en daar gelden andere regels. Dus kan niet zien dat iemand ou corpse campt in bvb de Barrens op een PvE server.

Klik om te vergroten...

hmm verkeerd gelezen over die gnoll

imo is wow wel de eerste met veel succes bij mensen die er nog nooit 1 hebben gespeeld
EQ lineage etc zullen nat. wel populair zijn geweest , maar imo toch ni bij het grote publiek

geen pvp , daarom dus dat zelfs met de bg , de alliance elke dag weer de xr raid

ja we kunne blijkbaar onze pvp aanzette buiten de bg
en ik heb al lame dingen gezien : group zit te queste en mobs te kille, paladin (hogere lvl en nog ene )met pvp op loopt in de vijand , wat gebeurt er nu , iemand van die groep die misklikt en klikt op dien pala , slaagt erop en pvp springt op... pala en zen maatje make dien af , waardoor de group der nat. ook op gaat en zij ook worden ook afgemaakt...
en gecorpsecamp, tja...

PvP op PVE server? Whats the use?
Mja, corpsecampen is een mentaliteit, probeer het zelf niet te doen
en hopelijk volgt de rest.
De loot en scoot regel is moeilijk duidelijk te maken in pvp aangezien je niet met elkander kan communiceren.

Zoals ik al zei is mijn kennis van WoW beperkt ivm PvP en EQ/EQ2, dus ik dacht dat PvE betekende dat je niet opelkander kon slagen. Wat PvE trouwens betekent Mja WoW moet weerals eens anders doen en de Basis regels die door alle andere MMO's wordt gebruikt veranderen.

Ma het feit is wel dat je zolang je niet PvP aanzet niemand je iets kan doen, dus is de bovenstaande tekst nog altijd het beste toepasbaar op PvP server.
Zoals ik al zei is het een poging om mentaliteit te veranderne op een PvP server, niet een PvE server waar je dan perfect kunt spelen zonder 1 PK te doen of gemold te worden. Niet?

Enneu ik versta nie wat er Lame is aan da Paly verhaal? Hij had PvP op, jullie wisten dat, je misklikt, shit happens, maar je slaagt erwel op. hij Molt je en de group, eerlijk, hij werd eerst aangevallen. So ik zie niet direct ta big deal.

Malkavian zei:

Gnoll is een vijand, geen speler, een Mob dus.
WoW is niet de eerste MMO dat gigantisch succes heeft

en yeah da van da corpse da zen nog foutjes die ik eruit moet halen.

En zover ik weet is er geen PvP op nen PvE server, buiten Battlegrounds en daar gelden andere regels. Dus kan niet zien dat iemand ou corpse campt in bvb de Barrens op een PvE server.

Dit is vooral bedoeld om de mentaliteit te veranderen, niet om je te veranderen in de beste PvPer, maar wel in een eervolle PvPer

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Er is genoeg PvP op PvE-servers, maar er is geen ganking en veel minder onvolwassen gedrag, omdat andere mensen doodslagen nu eenmaal kiddies aantrekt. Ik speel ook op PvE, en de PvE bestaat grotendeels uit raids.
Spreek aub niet met 'Zover ik weet' als ge waarschijnlijk nog nooit deftig op een PvE-server hebt gespeeld.

Ja kijk als WoW de PvE regels die algemeen in MMO's geld veranderd dan kan ik dat niet weten. Ik ben een PvPer in hart en nieren. PvE is saai.
Wat is dan in godsnaam het verschil tussen een PvE en PvP als je op beide kunt PvPen?

Enneu Kerel, ik zeg "zover ik weet" omdat ik dan verwacht dat er iemand het mij uitlegt ipv te beginnen schelden. :ironic:

Ik zie het zo
PvP => Je gaat daar voor de PvP
PvE => je gaat daar om niet te PvPen, maar mooi om met een groupke een draakje gaat doden en je niets aantrekt van de andere partij.

Prachtig! Ik vind het een zeer interessante post. Ik vind het wel knap dat iemand initiatief neemt om zoiets neer te zetten. Veel info en zeer goed verwoord.

Een klein vraagje. Op welke server zit jouw guild?

Bloodfeather
www.wow-lod.be

Malkavian zei:

Gnoll is een vijand, geen speler, een Mob dus.
WoW is niet de eerste MMO dat gigantisch succes heeft

en yeah da van da corpse da zen nog foutjes die ik eruit moet halen.

En zover ik weet is er geen PvP op nen PvE server, buiten Battlegrounds en daar gelden andere regels. Dus kan niet zien dat iemand ou corpse campt in bvb de Barrens op een PvE server.

Dit is vooral bedoeld om de mentaliteit te veranderen, niet om je te veranderen in de beste PvPer, maar wel in een eervolle PvPer

Klik om te vergroten...

op ne PvE is er wel redelijk veel PvP ... als er 1 iemand begint met Xroads aan te vallen staat het er binnen het half uur vol met +-40 horde en +-40 alliance ... dat is bijna iedere avond en in't weekend zo.
BG is op onze server redelijk leeg ... ga eerst een char lvlen op een PvE server voorda ge oordeelt over PvP actie.

Malkavian zei:

Ja kijk als WoW de PvE regels die algemeen in MMO's geld veranderd dan kan ik dat niet weten. Ik ben een PvPer in hart en nieren. PvE is saai.
Wat is dan in godsnaam het verschil tussen een PvE en PvP als je op beide kunt PvPen?

Enneu Kerel, ik zeg "zover ik weet" omdat ik dan verwacht dat er iemand het mij uitlegt ipv te beginnen schelden. :ironic:

Ik zie het zo
PvP => Je gaat daar voor de PvP
PvE => je gaat daar om niet te PvPen, maar mooi om met een groupke een draakje gaat doden en je niets aantrekt van de andere partij.

Klik om te vergroten...

Het verschil zit hem in het feit dat ge niet de ganse tijd gegankt wordt, maar kunt PvP'en wanneer ge wilt. Ik zeg ni da een PvE-server hetzelfde is als PvP, maar kvind wel dat u post ongelooflijk neerbuigend doet t.o.v. PvE, terwijl ge daar zelf nog ni eens gespeeld hebt. Het minste wat ge kunt doen is andere mensen hun smaak respecteren.
Waar hebt gij mij trouwes zien schelden?

omfg zei:

op ne PvE is er wel redelijk veel PvP ... als er 1 iemand begint met Xroads aan te vallen staat het er binnen het half uur vol met +-40 horde en +-40 alliance ... dat is bijna iedere avond en in't weekend zo.
BG is op onze server redelijk leeg ... ga eerst een char lvlen op een PvE server voorda ge oordeelt over PvP actie.

Klik om te vergroten...

Jesus Christ , is het enige dat jullie kunnen beginnen schelden?
Lees mijn andere Posts, STAAT DAAR NIET van als ik verkeerd heb zeg het en ik verander?
NEE? Ik denk het wel

WoW veranderd regels ivm PvE, ik niet.
Ik speel al 5 jaar MMO en dit is eerste keer dat ik van PvP op PvE server hoor. Go figure my mistake

er heeft hier nog niemand 1 scheldwoord gebruikt, ge moet wel tegen kritiek kunnen ofc. Anders moet ge hier op het forum ni posten, geloof mij.